Kansas City Mom Turns Grief Into a Sensory Bracelet Business

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm dealt with customers and I say, well, I don't need that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't need that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: As soon as they put the bracelet on them, they're immediately, they're fidgeting with it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I've seen adults just automatically start chewing on it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Everything I make has a message.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you flick your pin?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just like, yeah, do you chew your fingers?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you can use that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, hello and welcome back to Be Live Changers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm your host, Kathy Coats.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I am here today with a very special friend.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm so excited to introduce to you, Michelle McNeill.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We have become a really, really good friends.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I am so thankful the Lord has brought you into my life.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm so excited to tell you guys all about her story.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and we have just connected ever since then.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We both have a heart for people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We both love to share kindness and just share the love of the Lord and so I tell you, I'm just so proud to call you my sister.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, man, welcome to Be Live Changers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to JT Visuals.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm so excited to have you with me today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so, last is kind of jump.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I want them to really get to know you today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that you are making such a change right here in Kansas City with your business, Eminem Designs, which is about building sensory items.

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[SPEAKER_01]: First of all, it helps my son Gabriel.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He absolutely loves them, but we'll talk a little more about that later.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But let's kind of start back where you want to people to know a little more about you and how Eminem designs came to the forefront and I know you also are an author, yes, a very powerful book and that really can help people yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so, um, let's just kind of start back with your story and how you got to where you are right here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, first of all, um, I am a mother of five children, but I have three living children and to start with my where it all became was when.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I lost my first son.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was two and a half months old.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was 17 and I felt guilty because I didn't think I did the right thing behind, but that really wasn't the case.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was young and I wasn't listening and I thought I knew everything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it was a struggle.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And to fast forward, I did get married and I went through a very, very abusive relationship and when I,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Finally, got out of that relationship is when the Lord told me that I needed to help women that are suffering in silence.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I...

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[SPEAKER_01]: So many women aren't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They really are because they're so ashamed to say, man, I was abused and, you know, they did this and I did that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that is going to be a book that's coming later.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But when I got out of that relationship, I had my beautiful children.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There was four more and with that being said how I got to the sensory stuff was when my son was murdered for mistake and identity at the age of 24.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He had a wife, two kids and one on the way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, for the first two years, I don't remember anything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, when I finally realized that Michelle, you don't even remember your son's obituary, you don't remember anything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I felt like, wow, I was still suffering in silence.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, I decided to start making just these cross bracelets.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the first thing I started 11 years ago.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: His anniversary death date is September 16th.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it'll be 11 years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And as I sat back and started making jewelry, it was just I started seeing how other people were going through that same thing, giving the fact that I did not get diagnosed until after my son was gone of my mental issues and my mental health.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, wow, okay, I'm not the only person out here going through this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I started just, it was a oops.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I started creating the sensory items and didn't know what I was doing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't know how it was helping people, until I started telling them my story and how I came about doing it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's how I got started.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think how healing that must have been.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you dig for me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Very therapeutic helping you work through those things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because you know, when you're suffering and silence, you don't even know where to start or begin, or, you know, because you just, you're numb, you know, everybody deals with grief differently.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And sometimes you just don't even know where to start with that grief.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You find yourself, you know, in bed, not being able to face the day, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, depressed, really.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I was so communicating.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So just because you just, or, you know, try and not to deal with it, or, you know, all of those things, and so to be able to come out and find something that would help you, you know,

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[SPEAKER_00]: deal with one issue at a time taking a step back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I forgot to say when I first got out of the abusive relationship, I went to drugs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I started smoking crack and I'm not ashamed to tell anybody.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've been a crack 18 years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My son has been murdered for 11 and I did not use that crutch to go back to that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I chose to be positive and be an example for people.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that book

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[SPEAKER_01]: Awesome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So let's tell us about the first book.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The first book is surviving unexpected loss of a child.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was two and a half months old when I found him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And in that book, every chapter you can journal, your trauma, it says one of them says it's not to relive.

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[SPEAKER_00]: but to say how you learned how to go forward and live through that situation, you can never get over it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But you learn how to function through it and to accept it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And when you accept it, that's when you begin to heal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And being so young, you know, I think a lot of young mothers, you know, I always say children don't come with a manual.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then not always do you have support around you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: as being a young mother either.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so, and then even if you do have support, I did, but I chose to do it my way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But see, that's what I'm saying.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was getting to say the same thing on these, I was a young mom, because I was a young mom too, I was married, and I had a baby just before I turned 21 years old.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I was only 20.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But again, they don't come with manuals, but we want to

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like you have to show that you could prove that I'm old enough to have a baby.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so we do especially ask that our bullheaded, like I'm a very independent, you know, some of my first words my mom says, let me do it myself.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I mean, this been like, all my life.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so it was hard again for the same as you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: to take advice it was and so because you feel like you need to do it it's hard to take advice and so as a young mom they don't come with manuals and then when you don't take advice very well it can be rough.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was very rough because I am from a stern Christian background with faith okay and when I was pregnant I mean the baby that I lost is my second child I became a mother

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And my grandmother said, you keep being disobedient.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The Lord is going to take the closest thing to your heart.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't listen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't listen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I left home took my baby when she told me not to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And some people may not agree with that, but that's how we were raised.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So being disobedient, she warned me, but I didn't think it was going to be that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You understand what I'm saying.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that was hard for me to deal with.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I started when she would preach to me and tell me certain things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's when I was like, okay Michelle.

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[SPEAKER_00]: you better listen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You better listen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You better listen old school.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Old school listen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and that and I know that that is hard when you know, you know, you weren't listening and stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that again, that guilt had to be even more.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So even though maybe not all of that, you know, we don't know what to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So in then you're like, what do I do?

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[SPEAKER_00]: 11th.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was born December 26, 1986.

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[SPEAKER_00]: March 11th, 1987.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He had passed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't go to see my son's gravesite until three years ago because I felt guilty.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's very, very, very, very hard.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I did not go back to his gravesite until three, about three or four years ago.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Wow, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, because you live that whole experience twice now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And two different ways.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And two different ways because I mean, I think, you know, I'm sure the guilt felt different in two different ways.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I always say every experience we have in life, you know, is it teaches us and everything we do in life is for the next step.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so you being vulnerable to tell your story.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And to say that you self-medicated, I did, did things the wrong way at first, instead of, you know, asking the Lord for help.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You, you, you substances.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You used, running away.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not seeking help and love of others that were there for you to pray for you and be there because you did have a family who would.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: but you felt so guilty, but you didn't have to, you could run to the father's arms, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, I felt I feel that probably was, went part of you, do you think you felt a change, a shift?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because I got tired of Robin Peter to pay Paul and I got tired of the Lord, what been my tail?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just being honest, I got tired of suffering.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I got tired of like Laura, what else am I doing?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I went away from the church, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And for a while there, I was raising my kids in church and now it was my fault because my kids don't want to go to church and I know better.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I decided, okay, Laura, after I got out of my abusive relationship and did all of that and that stuff happened with my son, I would just like, well, okay, Michelle, you gotta do God's way, it's you never gonna make it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, you're never going to get where you need to go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And when I went and started going back to the church, my pastor said Michelle, you have a calling on your life, he says you are supposed to about to be emotion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm so sorry.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're supposed to be bringing women.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That is suffering.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and you're doing that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what you're getting your tail work.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I was like, okay, Lord, I don't want to do this no more.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So now I'm a strong soldier for the Lord and talking to people my phone stays on 24, 7 for women that need me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's where I'm at now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's no shame of what I need to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Amen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Amen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just a lot of all that surrendering.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I surrender all Lord.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I surrender.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, because our gift makes room for us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and we all have a gift.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, God has us all here for a purpose and a reason.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And when we surrender to that, there's so much power.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I feel like your book brings so much power and healing to women suffering and silence.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so thank you for surrendering because it's helping so many people.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, and I feel so blessed and I'm so happy to share my story.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't care how ugly it is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not ashamed to say where I'm being, where I'm coming from, and where I'm going.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you never know who that's going to help because you're, you know, I think there's many women out there right now suffering the same way ashamed that they did make choices that they shouldn't have or turn to substance abuse or getting in bad relationships and still healing our stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because when we don't heal our heart, we can't attack the right kind of mate.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We can't, we can't retract the right kind of man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That doesn't happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, we end up pulling broken instead of pulling healed the way God wants us.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There was my selfishness when I was out there doing it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was in a hood house and I'm not ashamed to tell people.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Three bedroom, two baths, full baths, $86 a month and I couldn't even pay that because I wanted to get high.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I lost it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: but not anymore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Amen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, that's not pivot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not gonna do this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I surrender, you know, no more and letting that give make room for you, you know, coming back and being determined and using that bullheadedness for the right reasons, right, right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Instead of, you know, doing it, you know, my way is God's way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that it matters this power in that story, you know?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't use my story as a crutch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: she said you're labeling yourself you you you are doing this for people that need their putty support and you need their putty support don't use that by polarism don't label yourself as that because that's not necessarily that so my pivot coach got to understand that I was doing that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: right you're putting the crutch on yourself.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Amen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, well good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm glad you're not putting the crutch on yourself.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No more.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because let me tell you what, let's talk about how that led now you got Eminem design.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, ma'am.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so, tell us a little bit about some of the items that you make and what are kind of the stories behind some of those items.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Eminem designed it depends on where I'm going and what I'm doing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I try to create for that specific event, you know, like I'm at the chicken and pickle.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I created a sensory bracelet just for the chicken and pickle and it's got a chicken and in on it and a pickle ball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The workers they all wear them and they love it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just I create.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I say abstract aren't from a abstract mind okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't have patterns.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't do patterns.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Whatever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like the Lord gives me to create.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's exactly what I do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If that makes sense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't create.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't label myself to say, well, I'm only going to do this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When I first started 11 years ago, that's what I said.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I only made the cross bracelets and the little Pandora jewelry bracelets.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I make the Pandora bracelets out of Pandora beads and I only sell those for like $7.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This work is a gift.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's really showing people my feeling and everything I make has a message.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Everything I make has a message.

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[SPEAKER_00]: except for, like, you know, a little party favorite stuff, you know, we lose this Halloween stuff as Halloween.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But when it comes to when people commission me to have me to make certain things, I do special bracelets and I, we actually comes, you know, under the sea turtles in this, it depends on what it is, but every single item that we make has a name.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's whatever we feel like that is, but all my

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[SPEAKER_00]: The Lord.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Amen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Amen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that's a he created us to create.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, he is a very creative minded.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But because looking at us, I come up with all the different, you know, things that we have like from animals and stars and universe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just amazing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we have that creativity and you use it to its fullest.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And for some great places to you just got done doing the renovations festival.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, and they support my mental health awareness movement, too They donate tickets for me to give to the different patres at the different shows that I do right and it is it is amazing I I'm at the third Friday Baldwin in Baldwin city.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I do third Fridays there I'm doing the monster market bash

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, sir, you're bound to hear about that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's my guess.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the line.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I will not cross.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I will not change.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If that means me sitting at home and not going.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's what I'm going to be doing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I get it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love all your pieces.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I tell me a little bit about Gabriel loves this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The sensory ones.

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[SPEAKER_01]: These are amazing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Check this out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, the sensory one is just like our sensory bracelets.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a fidget.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can spend all the beads on it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have a little snap back for the fidget, and when I first started I used to have the little diamond studs on there, but then when the kids was coming in like, and I've just decided to use the 3D printed different things I have some with dragons, like I put I added the queen's crown on there, and I learned how to seal it, so the kids when they're playing with it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: nothing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: These don't come off.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not going anywhere.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And these are made from the baby teet and beads.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they can still chew on them if they want to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I'm not going to put the whole stick in my mouth.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I've learned that it helps me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's a great, it's just fun to play with.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And

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[SPEAKER_00]: and I've had special orders made where people want to be to make different ones and I a lot of them are chiefs the one lady she wanted one extra long you know and I think hers was like three feet right a wow it was three feet long and then I did a queen's septor with the with the silver crown on top and it's it was three feet long and it was purple because she was representing Alzheimer's.

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[SPEAKER_00]: okay and she asked me to make her one like that and it was three feet long as will and it had the silver crown on it with those silver butterflies and it was all purple and silver.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh wow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love how you are so creative and making him different ways and I want to touch on that because you know what's so cool about the you know the one and these these and you're talking about well I wouldn't you want it but I do know being in the world that I am with a

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was not that way, but there is some kids and even adults that the chewing sensation they need that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that really does help in that world, that of needing sensory input.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I also want to touch on a lot of times we always think about autistic kids or people that are on the spectrum neurodivergent needing that sensory input, but really what I found out is we all do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, yes, because we live in such a fast pace.

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[SPEAKER_01]: world that you know i find myself even fidgeting at times with you know i have a insert agent has hers at her office or like the little bubble things you know it just kind of keep you still or rolling a ball or whatever you know just like um you know when we got our dog you know shadow um when he was a puppy you know is all about Gabriel you're needing a um sensory dog that sensory input we made sure he had kind of

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[SPEAKER_01]: And but now the joke in the family is well, it really isn't Gabriel's sense free dog is yours It's mine, so But it's true though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean he's like a little heavy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So when he lays on my lap now because he's like almost 26 pounds was supposed to be a little bit smaller

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's okay, but that's all right because it was perfect for Gabriel Gabriel needed a dog.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a little bit heavier But when I'd realize he lays on my lap, it just kind of grounds you and I find myself like finding myself this calming me down Are relaxing at night just from you know at the anxiety of my fast-paced life in business and of course You know helping Gabriel taking care of Gabriel some days are easy and some days are not right

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so, you know, what we all find out, you can have a perfect family with nobody with any type of, you know, ailment or, you know, disease or, you know, special needs or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry, a fast-paced life is a fast

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[SPEAKER_01]: You have one kid or ten kids and there's stress to that taking the school, getting them ready like, you know, you know, everybody says run, run, go, go and if we're not taking that time to sit back and relax, you find yourself needing those things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So your items help more than just health and wellness.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You help everyone.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's what I'm all appreciate.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I didn't want to touch base on that because I think a lot of times we do think

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[SPEAKER_01]: about the special needs community and it's not always just real miss everybody needs to slow down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody needs to take a break and sometimes I'm dealt with customers that say, well, I don't need that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't need that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And as soon as they put the bracelet on them, they're immediately they're fidgeting with it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I've seen adults just automatically start chewing on it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, okay, I said, I told you for adults and children that need therapeutic support.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't say that you were autistic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't say that you was ADHD.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't say that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just, you, a lot of us don't know we need that support.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Until.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We until it happens right this past week in the lady was like and I'm good, but my daughter would need that and then so is her mom picked up the bracelet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She was like, oh my god, Michelle, I love this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, see, is you never know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I said, do you flick your pin.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She was like, yeah, she said, I said, then you can use that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I said, do you two your fingers?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you can use this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is I just going to say a lot of times I don't think we realize we're fidgeting with stuff like rolling your pan or clicking it off and on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, all those little things and it's weird like even sounds like some people, the clicking bothers him but other people, I don't know, everybody has a different level of noise or a sound that some like people are okay with.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, your fingernails going down in chalkboard.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Other people were like, oh, right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I think even in the fidget world, I say, the fidget world is all the neat little fidget toys and sensory toys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's the same thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you're going to find me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, one piece may not be right for you, but you might think the wand is super cool or what

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[SPEAKER_01]: whatever else.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love that you have different items.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, because I've had people that don't like the sensory.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So now I make some bracelets with the bigger bubblegum glass bees has got the different regions and stuff in them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I also make them now with with this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they like the sensation, you know, of these because some of

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[SPEAKER_00]: like, oh, I don't like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that made me, I'm like, okay, but we're still trying to help everybody that has a sensory issue.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I do the bubble room glass, but he said, okay, I love these.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I remember you from last year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I had repeat customers coming to the runs on it's festival.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And she's like, you've changed a lot of things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I said,

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[SPEAKER_00]: You said you didn't like the sensory bracelet right with the bee the rubber bees.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's like, yeah, I said try this when she said oh my gosh I love this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I said okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I listened she said yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You did so it's not everybody can handle Certain items and I didn't realize that I thought

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[SPEAKER_00]: everybody that had sensory issues would love to silicone beads.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Some of the bracelets that we make do not make any noise, but they like the silicone part.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then so I had to learn some of them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, oh, I don't like that, but I love the silicone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I found out the different sizes of the beads make different noises and less noise.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So now we have some that don't make any noise, but they're still made with the the silicone, but they don't make any noise and the lady can still chew on them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Didn't there some that is mediocre, and then we have some that are very loud.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I love that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love that there's a variety of choices, a variety of choices.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I just love your heart.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I love that you're out there to make sure that that kindness keeps sharing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we are so excited to be able to tell about what your next thing is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I am so excited.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So Michelle and I are partnering.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of you know about Gabriel.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Gabriel's

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so he is my little influence or he loves running around and showing kindness to people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He loves going to non-profit organizations, one of his favorite things to do because he loves to help.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, we were kind of pivoting out of events and I was fine, you know, okay, I can use my audience to still shout out people because my heart was really to get small businesses seen known and remembered.

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know being able to be that community builder and make sure everybody like yourself get out there like I was always like where's the next show Michelle can be in or where's the next place I can tell about what you do but when I came around I was like I am not keeping my son busy enough and that was what it was all about.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was all about finding him work to do because of course

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[SPEAKER_01]: he has a gift too, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, he has a purpose here and what I didn't realize it was to be my business partner.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so that we could go around together sharing kindness all day long.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so she's like, happy, I got a new bracelet for him or I got a new one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We have all these toys and his occupational therapists that comes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She started saying, let me see the new

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[SPEAKER_01]: And where did you get this and so, you know, I've given your information as well and so they just love it too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But he absolutely just waits for the next thing coming.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I could not choose any more than to ask you to make his new line.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Gabriel Gibbs is all about sharing kindness when we go to a business and that business pays it forward.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We've done that, you know, where he's delivered like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: dirty soda to a spa from one business sharing to the other, or if it is him going into, you know, um, nonprofit and helping or, you know, him paying it forward by.

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[SPEAKER_01]: giving things to other people that are making a difference right here in Kansas City.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right now we're on a sweet tour.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we found some really cool places right here in Kansas City.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's doing things outside the box.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he's shouted those out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you could always see those online on TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, Cathy Coats events.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Go ahead.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's stuff is all underneath there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So Gabriel Gibbs is here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be launching at Monster Market Bash, which is our upcoming event with most sophisticated events.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We know she is my project manager, Monique is amazing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this is her second annual Monster Market Bash.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You were there last year, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was so amazing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was, you know, we're 200 people last year and we are already on set for more double that this year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So come on out because we're going to have so many fun things for the kids.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to have, I mean, like, literally it's going to be a swamp.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to have a costume contest.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just like we did last year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But we're bringing in more things for the children as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The police department's going to be there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to be bringing the blue.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're blue line for autism awareness.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so, and then we are going to have Gabriel Gibbs and you have created his own bracelet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: GG traditions.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Bachelor of dishes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Gabriel Gibbs, you can get these right here and have one for only $10.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's all they are.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Or you also can buy as many as you want for Gabriel to pay it forward.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So kindness keeps moving and that's what I'm so excited to do, all I can do, so you know you can buy one and then pay it forward and buy another one and then we're going to have a big bucket and Gabriel is going to go all over Kansas City.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you know of someone you want to be able to get a sensory item because they don't all have to be his bracelet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we love his bracelet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: several different ways of the special edition of it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's special edition of the first ones that are coming out and you can hear them, they make noise.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I will hear a messing with them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to get in trouble.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And what we're going to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry.

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[SPEAKER_01]: JT visuals is going to be on us, you know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What do you think about it here?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I love it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They are so kind and made me feel so comfortable because I was so nervous and anxious and it is amazing place to be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Isn't it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Isn't it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: They make it all my guests feel comfortable.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And let me be myself and keep the Lord first.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Amen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We pray before every.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to be ashamed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We pray before every one of these episodes because we want each one of our guests story to fall on the right ears and help people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that is our heart and our mission.

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[SPEAKER_01]: JT visuals, that's such an amazing job from the beautiful backdrop to my purple mics.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're always making sure everything is to perfection, and I love it because I'm able to come in and do these Okay, I can't wait to come in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And everything's in my family.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know that's right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, we'll have you back at date on Gabriel Gibbs But I just love that we're able to come in and we're gonna be able to walk out and it's taking care of so I can't focus on things like Gabriel Gibbs and getting him out in the community because that was the one thing that was hard for me is just because I can doesn't mean I should

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, and that is I'm gonna have a t-shirt's maybe that on their y'all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My signature because it is true because so many times I have had to keep challenging myself through this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe we talked about that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah Just because I can't as it mean I should.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean I have lots of gifts that has helped me over the years But now it's time to let go and let my vision go for other people to do

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[SPEAKER_01]: And keep him busy, you know, and so that's the whole mission about Gabriel Gibbs is getting out there showing kindness.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Make sure businesses are seen known and remembered through Gabriel and through our, you know, all my social.

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[SPEAKER_01]: sites.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going places.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Everywhere.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, A.

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[SPEAKER_01]: B.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And able to share people's story being able to share all the wonderful.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There are so many places here in Kansas City.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When people say there is nothing to do that is a lie.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There are so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Many places are getting out and finding out the places that are so I feel like Gabriel gives is going to start here locally, but I feel like the way we are putting it out there for everybody he's going to be able to go and broaden out other places to be able to give back to the nonprofits and the other children that are also in need.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I see for you as the future.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love to travel.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So hey, if you're listening to the podcast and you are not from Kansas Limersbury, let us know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll come to your town.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What's

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll show some kindness because he loves to travel put him in a you put him in a car And he loves to go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He loves to get out and see different places He's an outdoors person.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He loves to do all that stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm looking for that in the future as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's coming.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, and thanks to for you help and birth it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm excited, but I'm definitely make sure you come to Monster Market Pass.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, it is coming up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm very soon.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, very soon.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We will take pre-orders for Gabriel gives bracelet if you want one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you're on YouTube, of course, you can always drop a message below in the comments.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If not, you can reach out to us on any social platform, Kathy Coates events.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Or Michelle yours is how do people look you up on I'm on Instagram at this time, and it's designed by Eminem design by Eminem I believe it's designed by am underscore and underscore am that's what it is

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, follow us, you know, come on and out to Monster Market Bash, it is on October 10th.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm from 1 to 6.

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[SPEAKER_01]: October 10th from 1 to 6.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have Michelle over here helping me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, Michelle, thank you for sharing your story to us today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And for showing us how something created with love can grow into something that makes real difference in someone else's life.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The sensory bracelets you created for Gabriel Gives are more than bracelets.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They are a reminder that when our gifts are made with purpose, even the smallest act of kindness can continue moving from one person to another.

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[SPEAKER_01]: To everyone listening, never underestimate what God can do with your story, your gifts, and your willingness to say yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Remember, it's your purpose, his plan in business and in life.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Come be a like changer with us as we change communities.

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[SPEAKER_01]: One story, one act of kindness and one life at a time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Amen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: See you on the next episode.