The Unexpected Way Hip-Hop is Solving the Youth Discipline Crisis

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[SPEAKER_04]: Your translation, menu movement, is speaking a whole nother language.

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[SPEAKER_04]: If we get on the dance floor, you understand what language I'm speaking.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But dance has always been part of our family.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So we've been part of our life.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And so that never changed, never died.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And his dad tried to come in the door and try to regulate.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And I was like, you know, I got this.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So I called his kid over, stand next to me.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And so, are we going to do this whole thing we just learned in class?

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[SPEAKER_04]: And then, Afi did this step.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome back to Be Like Changers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm your host Kathy Coats and I have a very special person with me today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Shug easy from a translation and movement and I'm excited to tell his story today and have him here to tell his story today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This episode is something special because we are diving into purpose, passion, and impact through culture, creativity, and connection.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Shug EZ is the owner of translation and movement.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Kansas City's premier hip hop arts school is creating a space where youth and adults can learn breaking, DJing, art, free style, but more importantly confidence, discipline, and belief in themselves.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's what I love most.

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[SPEAKER_00]: is that you are here making a difference in kids' lives.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So thank you so much, Doug, for being on Be Life changers, being a part of this movement that we have trying to get the city to know more about great businesses right here in Kansas City.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, thanks for having me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, me doing a podcast, having to edit it and do all the clips and stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I thank you for coming.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sugar and I have recently met not too long ago.

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[SPEAKER_00]: A few weeks ago, we have Gabriel Gibbs now, which is my son who is deaf and autistic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we go throughout the city and a business pays it forward to another business and someone nominated you should for all the hard work that you do right here in the community for our youth.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Given them a purpose, a reason, teaching them discipline through dance and using their artistic abilities.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and so that just really did my heart good when Gabriel brought the coffee down to you and you were so kind to him, which means a lot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I got to know a little bit more about you and found out that you even have a night where you take special needs and let them express their

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[SPEAKER_00]: creativity through dance as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so that just really spoke to me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I was like I have to know more about your story that intrigued me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I knew that you have a heart for kids and I wanted to see where that came from.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So thanks for coming out today So with that said, let's go a little dig a little bit deeper and tissue and how it got started.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And to also a little bit about your upbringing, when did you kind of find that you were a creative at heart?

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[SPEAKER_04]: I will say that's probably been there the whole time, but it also was family.

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[SPEAKER_04]: My mom being creative, making up games and

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[SPEAKER_04]: pictures and parks and whatever we can imagine, we would just do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you come from a big family, a small family?

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[SPEAKER_04]: No, my family's small, you know, one mom, one dad, one brother, one sister.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know oldest.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know oldest sister, I have a younger brother.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We were five years apart.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's just a two of us.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they went into craziness of me having eight kids.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it was a lot different, you know, switching into that mom role and being a mother immediately of three kids.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then birthing five later, that makes a difference from being, you know, small going into a big family like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, that's pretty cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So your story kind of reminds me, you know, I can always tell kids when I see them at a young age when they start having that creative spirit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because you said you would make up the things that you were going to do when you went out to the park.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that's things that I always say kids when you start seeing them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're the one that's making up the game or, you know, my daughter who is a rap artist right here in Kansas City when she was little she would always be the one to make the tickets for the event.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So like the family, we all had to come to her performance.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And she would have her clipboard and she would sell her tickets to us before the event and everything was planned out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like that was just her normal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's just what she did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Nobody taught her how to do that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She was creative at heart.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's why I am so big into letting people, sometimes they forget their child when you were able to dream like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because we have life happened, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: All kinds of life happens.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then we have to be responsible adults.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And sometimes we forget what we're really called to do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like we all have a purpose to be right here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And there is a plan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And sometimes we just get lost in the muscle and muscle of everyday life to really remember what is our gifts, what's our talents and what's our abilities.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I love that you started out there because I mean, you were born a creative heart.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Honestly, I think everyone's born as a creative heart.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, God designed this all to be the same.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So we're not doing anything different.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It's just what path you take down the road and see where it goes.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Great.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So we all have their ability to be creative.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Most people are just not tapping.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Some consciously nervous of scared or be the one to be vulnerable.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Because, you know,

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[SPEAKER_04]: They don't want to be judged, but at the end of the day, you're being judged no matter what you do or how you do it so it's right.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It all matter if you good or bad, you're being judged.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's true.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it does happen that way sometimes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I think we're scared at what how somebody's going to perceive us or what they think of us.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When really at the end of the day, it doesn't matter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just do what you're passionate about, do what your heart desires is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: because that calling is going to come back to you over and over again, just like you said, everybody is born to do something, everybody has a calling, everybody has a gift and it's going to keep coming back to you, even when you try to walk away from it, it's going to keep trying to make that entrance to you being bold enough to take that step, I think, being surrounded and sometimes by the right people to encourage you to get there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so you know, I think that's super

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but you can also be surrounded by the wrong people to help you get there.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, so it doesn't matter what you feel around.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And you just got to know what's circle to move in, but sometimes the people that you're not supposed to be around will also give you a boost to understand.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I ain't supposed to be here, so I need to go do this.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Then you got people that are around you that will boost you up to go do something else.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But at the same time, they're still around you to hold you back from knowing what you got to do.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So you got, it has a tails.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Heads or tails.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Heads or tails.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So tell me this a little bit more.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So as you you know, develop those things as as a young child, what do you think started triggering you?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Tell us a little bit about you.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I grew up dancing.

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[SPEAKER_04]: but family, family unions, you know, things like that back at our barbecues, whatever, but I always dance.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I got in break-in in 1980, you see, what's a 83?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Maybe, let me see, 78, 79, 80, one, two, three, yeah, 83.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I was five years old, great, I was actually in San Diego.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And this is around the time when like,

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[SPEAKER_04]: you know, Michael Jackson is making thriller and all this stuff, so, but dance has all been part of our family, so it's been part of our life, and so that never changed, never died, and so I just kept that going.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I would never say that it was like,

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[SPEAKER_04]: my passion to dance.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It was something that I love to do.

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[SPEAKER_04]: As a kid growing older, I didn't know it was going to take me this far.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It wasn't a dream to be a professional dancer or a professional teacher or a mentor.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That was never in the cards.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It's just how life played out, how God lead the past.

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[SPEAKER_04]: This is where you're going to be.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But I didn't know that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I know you have a passion for kids to tell us a little bit about your story growing up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What were some of the challenges?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Was there some circles that you found yourself landing in that, you know, taught you, like you said, flip of the coin?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Like I said, you know what?

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[SPEAKER_04]: I danced my whole life in the states, you know, I was dancing over in Japan, my third grade year, fourth grade, fifth grade year.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But what really kind of drove it home a little bit, was probably my sixth grade year.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Move it to South Carolina, Beepford, Robba Smalls,

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[SPEAKER_04]: middle school, my sixth grade year, we're just getting back from Japan.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So I'm going to all black school.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And I didn't fit in because I came from Japan.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And so I was in black enough for my for my peoples.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I got picked on a lot.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So my sixth grade year, I hate that year.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I got bullied a whole year.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But the only thing that saved me through that year,

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[SPEAKER_04]: What's dance?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's dance.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Let's dance.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So when we had the school parties or the dancers, whatever you want to call them, I would dance.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And that's when everything shifted.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Everything changed.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Then it was like, oh, he could dance.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But at the same time, it's sixth grade when I was dancing.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I was actually getting to chicks.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So I was getting to women.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, it's 6 grand.

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[SPEAKER_04]: No matter, it's 7 7 7 7 the grade women that other people wanted to talk to, but I was just dancing with the girl.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So, but that's what kept me going.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I was like, I'm just going to dance.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And so every time I danced, no matter where I was, where I'd be.

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[SPEAKER_04]: that was always like I wouldn't say like a like a safety net, but I always knew that that always be the shield for anything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, right, and I think that is important, I mean to find that shield, because I mean,

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[SPEAKER_00]: must be honest, kids are not nice sometimes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it is growing up is not easy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Telling that story and letting other kids know that is important, you know, I used to get picked on to I grew really fast, which I know sounds funny because I'm 55 and a half, and I was tall at one point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I was even taller than all the boys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I kind of got bullied, I wasn't beautiful, I had acne really bad at the beginning, and so the guys wanted me to be on the kick,

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[SPEAKER_00]: kickball back then, I was really good in sports, it didn't matter what sports, but I could kick the ball further than even the guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so they would pick me to be on the team and then make fun of me, call me ugly, and then at that point in time, I had to give my life to Christ in fifth grade, so they call me the Jesus Freaks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Every time I got on the bus, I was called Jesus Freaks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And all these kind of different things that they would just call and make fun of.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so you would have to have a hone in,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I always say it's kind of like where you find your safety net, you know, and kind of push yourself through that, like, well, if I kick the ball, then they're not, you know, I express myself in a certain way, then I'm not gonna, I'll fit in a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that even comes to the point of where we try to fit in, I look back at that and I'm like, you know, okay, because then years later, those same guys who are making fun of me, we're begging to date me because, you know, that's like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: the pretty one in school was no longer chunky was no longer fat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't have acne.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was very beautiful at the time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so it was like, oh, you know, then everybody wanted to date me, which is, I find it funny that a lot of those people that make fun of you end up, you know, being right, you begin your biggest fans later, or

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you go back to your high school reunion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They all act like they were your best friends.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they're like, oh, yeah, no.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You didn't even pay attention to me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What are you talking about?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think it's great for people like you and I to be mentors to those young kids.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let them know this is just a stage.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just a phase.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is just a few people.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I used to always tell my kids growing up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you can try to impress those few people that are there that you're never going to know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can't see this right now because you're in a room

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[SPEAKER_00]: is everyone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When they're just a drop in the bucket.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're a drop in the bucket because those kids that influence you to take drugs or those kids that are trying to influence you to drink or do whatever you don't want to do, they're not going to be there later.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, when you go to college, you probably won't even know them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, many people do you really know out of high school.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have one best friend that I stay from high school.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You go to college.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So when you look at it like that, be careful what decisions you make because it's a drop in the bucket because that's just a group of people and it's huge area where there's way more people.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you don't have to try to please people to

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[SPEAKER_00]: be you, be cool you are.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And but I think that safety net is very, very important, turning around, tells a little bit more about the next stage of life.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So, we'll see the next stage, that was what he was in size Carolina.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We'll see that move back to Texas, put her as you from Texas.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Houston, Texas, but but to school in Hempel, Texas.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So East Texas, where do we go from there?

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[SPEAKER_04]: California, ocean side.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And so we was in ocean side, California, still doing dance.

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[SPEAKER_04]: When I was 15, sorry, teaching people a dance.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That's what I learned how to house.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I was doing more hip hop, a little bit of breaking, but it was not, not big.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It was mostly probably hip hop in house.

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[SPEAKER_04]: California sticks out a lot more.

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[SPEAKER_04]: with dance because some of my friends mom didn't want you to be on soul train so I got to see him on soul train.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So was that experience like, was that pretty cool?

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[SPEAKER_04]: What?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Getting to see soul train?

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[SPEAKER_04]: That's so soul train on my life.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah, I don't use soul train on your life.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Have you?

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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm not sure, like, you know, if I would like say it was like an experience like, oh, I saw such and such mom on soul train, okay, fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I thought you meant you were like, actually on the set.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no, no.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I was like watch the TV.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh watch the TV.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we are watch the TV and it's all trained.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We had a talent show and I have choreographed this talent show.

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[SPEAKER_04]: What a cup of friends and the winner of the talent show at this time was going to open up for Whitney Houston.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And we won the talent show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh-oh.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And so it was supposed to offer for Whitney Houston.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And then the people that was supposed to give me the information to crew I was with, they never told me.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So they went and did it themselves.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So they left me out of the equation.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So even though it was my choreography, but it was like, we lip-sing to, because it was lip-sing and we had to roses and stuff, but it was for it was Joe to see Redemix to come and talk to me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I remember that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so, yep, I didn't remember that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm that old.

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, I do remember that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I was hitting Houston, Joe did see I listen to them all.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, so I've been choreographing dance since I was like 15.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It just wasn't, you know, a paid gig.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it wasn't professional, but didn't again.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm not looking at that as a professional career.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Because around that time, I wanted to be a rapper.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So, dancing was not like, I'm gonna make this serious.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It was like, I wanted to be a MC, a rapper.

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[SPEAKER_04]: My mom was like, my management team, I guess.

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[SPEAKER_04]: She found me a manager, she found me a producer, and had to go a rap form, and to see if I'd be able to be on the...

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[SPEAKER_04]: the label, or get him to work with me, and, after that, I didn't want to be a rapper anymore.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It wasn't my thing either.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I think sometimes we have to try something out, though, before we know, for real, we may think one thing is one area we want to go into, you know, and then we find out, okay, that wasn't exactly what I thought, or the way, you know.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Uh, for me, it was more like, I just like dance more.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It wasn't the fact that,

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[SPEAKER_04]: I didn't want to, like, do it, it's just like, I feel like I want to dance more.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I was right in rhymes, I was freestyle in, but it's, I just didn't have the passion for it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, it's like, uh, I'm gonna do dance.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I get that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I get that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My mom was a hairdresser and get us my mother-in-law.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was a hairdresser.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They both do hair.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I love to do hair, too, but my mom always told me, you don't love it enough.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, well, okay, because she could, because she just said, I just don't see that passion in you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think your really gonna like, it as much as you think you are.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I'm glad I didn't get to the point where I went in and did all the school training and all that kind of stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But, I mean, I still do here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I do all my, my daughter's here and, you know, I get to do all that's fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's good to be able to know it on the side.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's true, that was not my calling, that's not where I wanted to be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: over life change several times.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But each one of those things every step I take in life and I think you probably have a test of this too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Even though you went in wrapping and doing those things and probably got seen for a while it brings you back to what you love to do even more.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I always say it pays apart because all the things I've ever done in life lead me to what I'm doing right now.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I tell people quite often, I don't regret anything that I've done in my life because I wouldn't be who I am today.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So everything I went through, led through failures, good points, being in trouble, whatever you want to call it, made me who I am today.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It shaped my thought process, it shaped how I want to raise my kids, it shaped how I want to maneuver things in life.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So, my opinion, I let people know you don't regret it because it's shaping you.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, there's a lesson to be learned from everything you've done.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And it would think you've been put in the situation.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You was picked there for a reason.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But it's up to you to figure out what that lesson is from that reason.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And if you don't want to figure it out, I mean, that's on you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's how our character is built.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, through those experiences we go through, whether good or bad, our next choice helps build our character.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like who we really are.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And that's pretty much probably why dance has always been the forefront.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, like I said, I was living in California, hung around gang members, did a lot of stuff, but dance was always the forefront.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But it also let me go through different neighborhoods, because, oh, that's such and such, he dances.

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[SPEAKER_04]: He's cool.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I get to walk through the neighborhood, because I dance.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so you get to experience those things and get around a different culture of people and learn more about that too, which I think is important.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I think we should cross more and get to learn more about each other.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I think, because I mean, then you can really know what someone's thinking or get to really know a person to the core at heart until then was just an assumption.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That tick is also communication, people don't speak.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it's a true.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, I think that's a...

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[SPEAKER_04]: Even in my life today, I ask a lot of questions.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't have to know you.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I'll just meet you, but I want to know something about you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But I'm from a different place.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Like, I'm from Texas, you know, we were straightforward.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We'd like to talk Kansas City, they're passive aggressive.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And so it's a little bit different.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then what do you say about California?

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[SPEAKER_04]: California.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean that they're straightforward.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're straightforward.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I live in Atlanta for a while.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I live there for three years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so communication I would say is definitely, you know, is lacking.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're more laid back than what I expected.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I expect you to like when you get one thing down a day if you went to go get your tags on your car expect to take it all day long if you went to the doctor's office that's what you did that day and a very high pace person so it drove me nuts although there were things I loved about it to I mean there's lots to do in Atlanta some of the cities around was just too slow pace for me but like you said that they're they're quick to tell you how you feel yeah I get that so I think that's funny but you do have to kind of slide and know where you're at

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[SPEAKER_04]: with my dad being Marines and got to travel a lot and shaped also who I am with the open mind it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I open mind to a lot of things.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I think that shaped me a lot as well to be the teacher of my mentor that I am.

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[SPEAKER_04]: is because I got to experience different things in different states and different countries.

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[SPEAKER_00]: After she said that you went to Japan, corrected you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That is Japan's day there for a while.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How long did you stay in Japan?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Three years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Three years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Awesome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you did get to learn a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're there long enough to get to know culture.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, it was mandatory at our school, so we had to learn the culture aspect of it, the language, what if let's say, how to count.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So for three years, me and my brother was taking Japanese classes two days in Thursday.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So by our third year, we was pretty good at Japanese.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's awesome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's awesome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you said Korea is even to Korea for a while.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How long were you guys there?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, we wouldn't hear that long.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You were like, we were not there that long.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We were not there that long.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, so that's cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think that does help.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, and you come back across that sense of not fitting in, that had to be hard.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I always say, when you're working with the kids, I'm always like, you guys give people a chance, because they know something that you need to know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When people have been to many different places,

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[SPEAKER_00]: to go towards those type of people.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I always have on my life, maybe that's just part of my character, but if I've known someone to be different, you know, whether that be special needs, or they've been like the kid who traveled all over and never settled down, or I was always the one with the outcast, the one that nobody likes, Kathy, when over and sit behind that, my

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was just my thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I always wanted everybody to feel included.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My whole entire life.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's always how it's been.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I always went to the person who everybody was making fun of and set down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, what you're going to say to me, because you're going to go say nothing to me, because I'm going to get it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to deal with this right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What you're going to say?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I always always kind of like the big sis, I guess.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I love doing it because you learn so much because I haven't been to Japan or I haven't been to Korea.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I think we learn from each other.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel it's a shame and it's sad that so many people choose to, you know, pick on people that are a little different and instead of really getting to know and understand them.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So, yeah, I mean, at the end of the day, it's just ignorance.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Most people pick on people.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Because they're an unfamiliar territory.

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[SPEAKER_04]: They'll not be at.

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[SPEAKER_04]: They'll not be spawned to something that's different.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That they've never been around.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So we all been through that state before.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Where we've been in a situation that we don't know how to understand the situation.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So we have to find a way to not.

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[SPEAKER_04]: always pick on somebody, but point out something to get a reaction and then figure out later on how to respond to that.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But then by the time you respond to it, you're already like, this is too easy.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I should have done this the first time around.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can get that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, moving with that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm translation and movement.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So that happened to that birth out of here in Kansas City, or so translation and movement hip hop school, actually,

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[SPEAKER_04]: was renamed back in November.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I was part of a franchise called Break Free Hip Hop School.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And we had part of ways.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And so I wanted to do my own thing.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So translation and movement was the name I had the years ago before I, me and my friend Kevin have found the franchise.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And so we want to break free, can't say proper school.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But then when I left the franchise, I went back to translation and movement.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I love that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I love that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think that's important that you said that because I think sometimes when we're getting ready to go into a business or you know you knew you were passionate about dance.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and how to do that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know, at one point in time, I was going to open a gym, worked in which I taught at a tanning salon that owned a gym.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I've been in back in which I taught.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's how basically all of this came about in business.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Anyhow, as I was a manager there, every three months we would do a big ladies and I out to attract traffic to flip a gym.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so we did like a pop-up event and we do glow light Zumba.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I actually ruined my son's car by dancing on top of it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How many high school kids have their mom dance on top of their car?

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[SPEAKER_00]: But anyway, anyway, that's what we did to bring in traffic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it was fun because I loved dance too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I used to teach Zumba for many, many years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hip-hop and Zumba, so I absolutely loved it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did it for about 10 years, but I loved the gym.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I always thought I was gonna open a gym.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And when I did look into it, I looked into franchising as well because there's just a lot of different reasons for franchising versus opening your own at first.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think sometimes taking steps is good, you know, because you learn a lot about business when you're like in a franchise and stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So tell us a little bit about that journey in franchising, which how it would was there ups and downs to it, didn't make it a little easier.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You wish you did it another way I mean like I mean when you get into a franchise Things can go Me different ways my experience was what's good and bad.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I just leave it at that Right, no, I get that.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I guess that felt really good just to do my thing Well, get your it's a complex because like Translation and movement was the name I wanted to go it in the beginning because your translation

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[SPEAKER_04]: And your movement is speaking a whole nother language.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And so, no matter if I know you or if you're from a different country or whatever, if we get on the dance floor, you understand what language I'm speaking.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So, we can just translate into the movement.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So, if you're artists and you're drawing, you don't have to speak to me in your language.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I can learn through you through your paintings or your graffiti.

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[SPEAKER_04]: If you're playing instruments, I mean, you're still moving.

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[SPEAKER_00]: but I can understand you will learn you through your your sounds and your music without even having to speak a word so which is translating and movement the whole time so I love that that's so awesome because it is so true I think a lot of times is getting out and dancing with someone is a different state it's like all the nervousness drops off you might mean nervous when you first start dancing sometimes I think some people are that they don't feel like they know how to dance or whatever

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I always say, just be yourself, it doesn't matter, like, just move, like, you know, when you get people into moving and stuff, it's like, they just get to let go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like a form of just being able to let go of all your worries, your problem.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I mean, there's a study how dance is a therapy, but a lot of people don't see it that way, because,

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[SPEAKER_04]: When people watch other dancers, they're comparing themselves to a finished project, you know, like when people see me dance, they're like, I can't dance like you, and like that's true because you can't because the way I hear the music, the way I feel the music is how I'm going to interpret it, how I'm going to move to the music.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So you won't do the same thing as me.

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[SPEAKER_04]: but some people just haven't gotten there yet, but it just takes a little bit of encouragement to get them there, but it's also the understanding of how to get there.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Most people don't understand the why.

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[SPEAKER_04]: to be there, and so if they understand the why it changes a whole different perspective of like, how to be on the dance floor, I think it's more so of like the why, like why you're doing it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, why you're on the dance floor, people will say, I'm going to dance for a cup I just want to move my body.

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[SPEAKER_04]: that's good.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I understand that, but I need to understand your conversation at the same time.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, what are you trying to say?

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[SPEAKER_04]: But I think once people get there, everything is just open.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, you have affinity places to be.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So it's all good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I think that comes with you being a teacher, a difference, and just someone who is dancing to being someone who can teach someone how to dance, or teach them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I hear the teaching in you coming out, because you know, not everybody would look at it at first as like, why are you doing this?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, there's a reason behind, you know, why are you dancing?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And being able to pull that out of someone,

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a teacher at heart, that's a teacher in spirit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: By you helping someone that you're freeing them and getting them to the next level.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm sure that has, you know, just like anything that we help someone with, like, when I see a business grow or go from doing pop up shopping and to own their own brick and mortar, I get a sense of,

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[SPEAKER_00]: So excited, like that's all, you know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So awesome, like they've, you know, they made it, they've arrived, and so there's just something about seeing someone make that next step that just gives you a sense of accomplishment.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I feel that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What got you into, I mean, I know that there's you teach kids from very young all the way to adults, correct?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, we teach two-year-olds to like,

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[SPEAKER_04]: I was just sending this other day.

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[SPEAKER_04]: My oldest student was like 75, 76 years old.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So we don't have a Dance should have a age on it technically, but you know, we teach two to adults slash elders if you want to call it I work with you know special abilities so we don't have like a

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[SPEAKER_04]: a preference of like, right?

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[SPEAKER_04]: You have to be this age.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But, and I think a lot of times when I have met a lot of different instructors and dance instructors and stuff, they have an age group, and that's why I think I like, you know, when I met you, I kind of like, was really intrigued about you and in your studio and stuff, because you do have such a wide range.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, I said, this guy has got to have purpose, like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because I can tell that you have a really hard for kids of all ages because I know a lot of people who like they just teach like the The grade school kids, are they just teach middle school or they feel called the high school and You have a passion for it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Where do you so the crazy thing is the people that teach?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Certain kids

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[SPEAKER_04]: I talked to some of those people, and I get the same answer every single time, it's because they don't have any patience.

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[SPEAKER_04]: They don't have patients, they don't have patients to work with little kids or they don't have patients to work with middle school kids or they don't have patients to work with high school kids.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I may usually come down to that as patients, but for me I have patients because I know that you're going to make a mistake.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I know you're going to mess up.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I know you're not going to get it right away.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I know there's going to be troubles.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I know there's going to be walls.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You're going to hit.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I know there's going to be some conversations that we have to be talked about.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But in order to get to the promised land, you gotta have patience.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Amen.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And say that one again.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And so when it comes to teaching, you know, I'm just chill, you know, I just like, let's see where we go, patience, I know it's.

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[SPEAKER_04]: There's going to be certain kids, certain adults is going to get it quicker than others.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But I don't let that stop them from growing, because I look at it as a pair of pushing up here.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, they're got it faster.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That's cool.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You want to do it too.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And they're like, yeah, okay.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, your journey is going to be a little bit different.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So if you have patients, you'll get there.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So that's why, you know, from me, I could teach you to your, to your, can cry around around the room.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm not like going nuts, I'm just chilling because now I have to understand how do I teach this to a role, how do I get him to understand this, what makes him take, what makes him click, my hat parents come in my class, you know, years ago, like they're 304 year old, five year old kid in my class and they're just running around, whatever, and parents try to come in the classroom and try to regulate.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I belate, this is my classroom.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, right, I got this.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Go have a seat.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Go enjoy your moment alone.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But my kid is doing this.

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[SPEAKER_04]: My kid is being disruptive.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm like, no, that's what you see.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I see some different.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Like, the rules don't apply here at your house.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Use of my rules.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And so, just given an example, I had a kid that came in class.

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[SPEAKER_04]: He was autistic.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Then he came in class and his dad was looking through the window and the kid was just running around, pin on people's jackets and standing in people's faces while you're stretching whatever.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And so I'm watching him do these things and as we're dancing.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I can see him learning and his dad tried to come in the door and try to regulate and I was like You know, I got this shell out for a second and he said the same thing I can see my kid He's he's been disruptive.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I said no.

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[SPEAKER_04]: He's not just give me a second So I call this kid over stand next to me.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I said, all right.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We're gonna do this whole thing.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We just learning class They kid did every single step.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh wow

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[SPEAKER_04]: And then, after he did the step, he would be back running around like this.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So, you have to meet people where they're at, right?

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[SPEAKER_04]: And not change it because you think it's for you, because at the end of the day it's not for you, it's for them.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So, when they're learning,

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[SPEAKER_04]: You have to figure out what it is.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Some people are visual.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Some people are hands-on.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Some people are sound.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Some people are account.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Some people are noises.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, it says you have to see where they're at and how they pick up the skill.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And for this individual, it wasn't about standing still.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It was a visual, but he was just moving.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So some people have to move to understand it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: and that's what he did.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So I had to prove his dad wrong and then his dad had apologized after the last deal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, well, everybody wants to be seen and heard and I think it's like, you know, you have the gift to be able to see into what's going on in a situation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that makes you stand out, you know, as an instructor, you know, I think that really makes you stand out is that because I always say everybody wants to be seen heard or remembered, you know, you as a business, you want to be seen heard and remembered.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It leaves a legacy, it lets you have something for your kids to pass on or to know about you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So if you were to say one thing you would want people to remember you by what would it be.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It's a good question.

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[SPEAKER_00]: because you're doing so much, I mean, like, I think when I had went and asked, you know, everybody that I talked to about you said the discipline that you teach and and that kids learn to believe in themselves.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that's powerful.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I do know the parents that come to me will say how

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[SPEAKER_04]: They like, I'm very direct and straightforward.

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[SPEAKER_04]: There's no sugar coat and there's no ice cream compliment, whatever they call it, a sandwich compliment.

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[SPEAKER_04]: There it is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't sugarcoat it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, so I just, I just give it to you straight.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Right, yeah, I'm really big on respect, discipline, and life lessons.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Some people don't teach dance, they just teach dance, but I'm teaching life lessons with dance.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Not only to be in the studio, but life lessons how to be outside the studio.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Because I learned a long time ago, no matter what business you work in, or what school you go to, or what dance plays you at, if you're out in public, and you wear that shirt, and you act in crazy, you represent my school.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And so, therefore, if you represent my school and you get in trouble, it pits a bad name of my school.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So, it's the same thing with parents.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And when you walk out the door and you act like crazy, you represent your parents and some people buy us a bad kid.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So, your representation of where you from was school, your family, who you value, how you show that value to other people, we teach those things at our schools.

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[SPEAKER_00]: that's what we need.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like our kids need that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They desperately need that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So thank you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you for giving that to our kids.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can say that because I'm a mom of many.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My kids are not just the eight kids.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have way more kids than that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's more people call me mom that I could probably name their names.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yes, same thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Same thing for your way.

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[SPEAKER_04]: My students are my kids.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you know, you won't tread that lightly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So tell us some things that you have coming up before the kids.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So, in July, we have two camps.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We have a skateboarding and break dancing camp.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And then we also have a style explosion camp, which in that camp, we teach MCing, and boxing, your feedy, dance, and DJing.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So we teach five elements in that one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, we have two different camps.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Awesome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Awesome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you do teach more than just dance.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so and so to say those one more time, some people know it, but when they want to come find you, what else, it was your expertise besides death.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So at the school, we teach breaking, hip hop, DJ lessons, and art classes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_04]: In the summer camp, we teach breaking, DJ, graffiti, MCing, and beatboxing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Love it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they have all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to bring my grandkids down this summer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're going to come.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have a son who loves to beat box.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I love his thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He loves to beat box.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's awesome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so tell us a little bit more.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The one thing that is about your special needs class.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is that Monday?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Do I remember that right?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, we have special needs class.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Monday's at four o'clock every Monday here.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Any special abilities is welcome to the class.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that door is open for me.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know, maybe 20 years ago or so.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And I started working at Downs Syndrome Guild of Kansas City when it was on Neiman.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It was just a door that was open.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I've never taught special needs until like that time.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_04]: My daughter's uncle has special needs.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I've been around, I have, you know, relative to the special needs, but I also knew an understanding about them.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It was interesting for that class, too.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, I went in that time in the teacher, or other people that were organized.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It was like, make sure you teach something very easy.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And so when someone tries to tell me how to do my job, oh, no, that doesn't go good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I do the opposite.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So I taught something very hard and they did it didn't they and because I I knew where they are You know They don't see us no different than what we see them they see us the same so I'm gonna treat them the same at treat them as I have They want to be treated, so I just taught a regular class there you go and they Noted out of the park.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, there was one one individual that didn't participate But he chewed them on the whole time

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[SPEAKER_04]: And then I had two students that wanted to be assistance, you know, teacher assistance, something okay, whatever.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And we knocked it out of the park.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And I remember the lady asked me, she goes, oh my God, they actually got it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And I remember telling her, I was like, yeah, they got it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And they got it, but the only thing is you had doubt.

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[SPEAKER_04]: you didn't believe in them.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And so it kind of was like, ha ha to you.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That's how I joined.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But then ever since then, I knew God opened that door for a reason.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And then I just never stopped.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I had goals to do certain things.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So I'm still going to do them.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I just haven't done them yet, but I was understood.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We look at them.

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[SPEAKER_04]: as people, they see us as people, some people judge them because they have a special ability.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And I just laugh, I say, maybe they judge and you because you have a special ability.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I always tell my kids that I'm like, I think you're the guys of the ones that need help.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because my son has everything put in its place.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I never have to ask him to do the dishes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, like, he just...

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[SPEAKER_00]: Does it, and does it to completion and perfection and is very, you know, particular about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like you said, you hit it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can't doubt them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have never doubted him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He got in trouble.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If he picked on the kids, hit his brother, sister, he got in the same kind of trouble as the rest of him got in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Discipline wise, growing up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you couldn't do that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to learn how to do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I believe and you can do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that people kids, kids, period need to, you know, have that

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[SPEAKER_04]: I dig a lot of people can learn from the individuals, but it was one thing that I actually learned from them that special ability people have and deaf people have.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, tell me that.

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[SPEAKER_04]: They always tell you to choose.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would say that's true.

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[SPEAKER_04]: They just tell you how they just tell you to do this.

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[SPEAKER_04]: If you ask a question, do you think I look good in this?

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[SPEAKER_04]: You think I'm fat?

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[SPEAKER_04]: They're going to tell you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_04]: They answer.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So don't ask if you don't want to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't ask them to tell, right?

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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, and sometimes they don't even have to ask.

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[SPEAKER_04]: They just tell you.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And I picked that up a lot of those like, they're very straightforward with their answers and how they deliver it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: but two other individuals like them, especially, they don't take offense to it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: They're just like, okay, it's move on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I think that's a huge legacy you have to pass on to your family.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I think that's cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So what would you say you will see yourself in the next 10 years?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What is your dream?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What would you like to see translation movement move into in the next 10 years?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, when I want to see a grow to maybe maybe I start my own franchise.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Go for it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I try to give it to my daughters like to take over and they was like, nah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That was like, nah, we don't want it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But then again, in the moment they said that, I don't know what's going to happen in 10 years.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But a bigger school, more connections with, you know, to city, doing more community outreach programs with the school and building pillars throughout the city.

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[SPEAKER_04]: of not only just coming to the school, but trying to implement educations into elementary schools or junior high schools or something like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Awesome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I love it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I love it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So if you have been wanting to learn more about dance, if your kid is showing any signs that they want to, but all of them do, because they love to do all my kids have.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if I've ever been around a kid who doesn't like to dance around.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Check out Sugar Easy at Translation and Movement right here in Overland Park, Kansas and thanks again for being on the show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I appreciate you being here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to come.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know you're going to be like what in the world.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have not admitted this to anyone but when we had moved from which it's on to Atlanta, I that was the last time I ever danced.

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[SPEAKER_00]: because it didn't transfer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I when I got there, it didn't open back up for me to teach.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so that's one thing that I just got so wrapped up and taking care of my kids and being in a mom and trying to figure out what I need to do next that I have.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So guess what, we're going to stop that because I miss it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But I call you a lie.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You call me a lie, why is that?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And because everyone at plays music at home, they always dance.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I dance, you dance, you dance, you dance, you dance, you dance, you dance, you dance, you dance, you dance, you dance, you dance, you dance, you dance, you dance, you dance, you dance, you dance, you dance, you dance, you dance, you dance, you dance, you dance, you dance, you dance, you dance, you dance, you dance, you dance, you dance, you dance, you dance, you dance, you dance, you dance, you dance, you dance, you dance, you dance, you dance, you dance, you dance, you dance, you dance, you dance, you dance, you dance, you dance, you dance, you dance, you dance, you dance, you dance, you dance, you dance, you dance, you dance, you dance, you dance, you dance, you dance, you dance, you dance, you dance, you

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[SPEAKER_00]: I do miss it at times.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Everyone dances in the concept of their own life.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But you're right, I have dance.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've been, you know, I've been in clubs a couple of times, dance and things like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I mean like, as in with a whole group of people having it in one time, that's fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I should say a group dance.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's just read something that a group dance.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because it's different.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's different, that's power.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's power in when you dance.

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[SPEAKER_00]: you know on your own like if you're in the club dance with your friends or whatever that's what I'll hold that if you're a church dance and that's a whole other thing but when you have the power of a whole room doing a dance together there's just a there's pattern that yeah but don't any different from from art dance we're very different from other

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[SPEAKER_04]: schools.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We don't teach routines a lot, but not very big on that.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It's all about to understand a technique and to history behind the dance.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So you learn the foundation and technique to understand how to be your own versus I have to do it like this.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And so, therefore, at our school, when you learn how to dance, I'll teach you one way, but I want to see how you do it your way and that's the understanding of how to free-style because most people that I'll put this in quotations that say they teach a free-style class and it's like do whatever you want.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, there's actually technique to all of that because you have to be free.

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[SPEAKER_04]: inside the style that you're doing.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So, free style is a nice word, but what style are you doing?

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[SPEAKER_04]: So you can be free inside of hip hop, that's the style.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So people, so I'm free styling and they just do whatever they want.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And I go, what style are you doing?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, because there's different styles and they're like, I don't know, just making my own up.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I thought it was good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That'll be something that I now have learned different styles for us in, but those are very few styles.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you got your hip hop, but there's not all styles.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I will be, I'll be interested in learning new styles.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That'll be cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, I'm the obvious adult member, so adults you can come to, so like kids love it, adults love it, and I'm going to bring Gabriel, Gabriel's going to love it, and so I'm excited for that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So come join me at translation and movement.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks for coming to another episode of B-LiveChangers and we look forward to seeing you the next time.