How My Parents Made Me Rich

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[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of sidewalk, do a little bit of remodeling here and there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, it was paycheck to paycheck forever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it was December and we were two months late on our vain payment.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was about to get repaid.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yo, what's up everybody, welcome back to another episode of more than meets the iPodcast where we talk about what's behind a person, a practice or a product, especially when it comes to marketing because we are business solution driven creatives.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm Jared Taylor, and I've got my coffee, welcome to JT visuals, and that's without the eye because there's more than meets the eye.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, so this one is

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[SPEAKER_05]: It has to trump gram on grandpa's episode actually it's not about comparing but I got my parents here this time And if you're listening you might want to hop over to YouTube on this one because we're probably going to be Rollinize and laughing things that you won't catch on the audio but I get it if you're listening to the audio version So I got my mom Leslie Taylor here my dad David Taylor if you were to give a bird's eye view like who you are and what you do

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[SPEAKER_05]: How would you say that?

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[SPEAKER_05]: Dallas, sorry to you.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Who are you?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I'm Dave Taylor.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm Jared's dad.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And mom.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm Leslie Taylor, Jared's mom.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And also, grandma.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Well, there's so much to my character that wouldn't be part of my character if it wasn't for you guys and I say that in the most obvious way possible like without being without you, I wouldn't be here.

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[SPEAKER_05]: But I also say that in a really good sense because being one of six and counting mom and dad, there's a family of eight, it's kind of rare that you days especially with the same parents too.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I was the, if anybody for context, I was the first middle child because there's no middle with six.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You're right.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So three.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Three, but the second guy, Jessica being the second one, and she has actually done some clips for us before in the past.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So, Kudos, shout out, Jess, what a...

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[SPEAKER_05]: And then Jonathan was on this podcast, too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's the oldest.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So we're making our way around the family to see what's going on.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And how does it relate?

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[SPEAKER_05]: How can we help people with the marketing?

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[SPEAKER_05]: Or what's the story behind you as a person where all just here to make the world a better place through this podcast?

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[SPEAKER_05]: Because there's a lot of bad social media out there for the most part.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, you're on social media.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, you're spending all this time on social media.

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[SPEAKER_05]: But it's like, what if it's all good stuff?

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[SPEAKER_05]: Or like, what if you run into them that way?

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[SPEAKER_05]: It can really help.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And it's extremely good for businesses.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Because if people haven't heard of you, they're not going to ever book with you.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You could have the most amazing thing.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And no one buys from you.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And you could sit there and be like, why didn't they buy from me?

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[SPEAKER_05]: It's because you haven't told anybody.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So it's very important.

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[SPEAKER_05]: But I say that to say, I'd like to see and hear make public, I know a lot of your story.

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[SPEAKER_05]: There's actually parts maybe I can discover without it.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Like, that I probably had no idea.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I took Grandma and Grandpa this way and I wanted to take you as that way is, how did you meet at church?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So back in the day, this might have a little bit to do with how you like social media, not necessarily social media,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I love movies so I always went to movies.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean when I was a kid in the little town of Pleasant Hill The big Creek Country show that's there now was a movie theater.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I went when I was a really young teenager every Friday night Didn't matter what was showing And so I rode my bike to that movie theater and watch whatever movie was playing Sometimes that wasn't a good idea, but they let me in anyway because they knew me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was there every week

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[SPEAKER_00]: So when someone from the local church there put a poster in the high school that they were showing a movie at the church on Friday night or whatever night it was, I'm all in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I went down to the movie and we were pretty young.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was barely fit well about 15.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She was only about 12 years old, but she looked pretty good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so that's the first time I saw her, for me, it was love at first sight for her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It took a lot of praying, a lot of talking, a lot of years, and then she finally came around.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But see, so you're good at sales.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so that's best sale.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's basically how we met a few days later after that movie, they invited all the teenagers to

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was around Halloween time, so all of the everyone was going to these haunted trail things, and they had a Christian one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Up north, they hauled us all on a bus, took us up, and we went there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that was basically how we met.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it was all history from there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, what's your side of it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Tell a lot of different.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I remember when he first started coming to church and

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think that movie was, was it called Burning Hell?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Gram Reaper, I thought.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, the Gram Reaper?

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't, I don't remember.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Huh.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And you were watching the movie for a whole week, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: No, I think I've all entered to help with the kids in the nursery, because I don't like scary movies.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Still down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you were setting two rows in front of me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was.

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[SPEAKER_05]: you had the long black hair and what's funny is like I hear that and you say long black hair now I want to make a parody of yeah long black train song black hair

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[SPEAKER_05]: But it's because my dad is sings and he sings bass all the time and people at that place They'd create that big, big country from who became the country show and you would sing there and everyone's always like Sing long black train.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Sing long black time.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, but so what about the theater though?

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[SPEAKER_05]: Like when you saw him or whatever Like the theater I didn't see him at the theater.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm maybe.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah

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[SPEAKER_05]: I got that wrong, sorry.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: When I listen to this back, I'll be like, what?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I went to the theater every weekend as a kid, but because I like movies, but they put the poster in the high school to come to the church to watch a movie.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So there's a man in the house.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He used the vent.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And then I think if I remember right.

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[SPEAKER_03]: when he was saying that we went to that event.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Was that at, as a north somewhere, I don't remember.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, okay, I'm not thinking of the same thing then.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and they had a guy in coffin up front and they preached for a little bit and then the guy reached his hand out of the coffin.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was like a dead body, but everyone circled the coffin and looked at the dead body and then he reached his hand out and everyone just scattered on the floor.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That was going to get trampled.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, now it's like dodge ball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Actually, they don't even do dodge ball.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I grew up in the middle.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Can't do that any more.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So you get someone to get offended.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You targeted me?

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[SPEAKER_05]: No, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We became really good friends.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And like best friends pretty much.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And but I had probably at least two boyfriends from meeting him before I dated him.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I didn't think about that.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But we were good friends.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I always set my him at church.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, dad, then I know.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We hang out.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But I had a boyfriend.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Well, because it was the same sort for me in Rose.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So you crossed that friend line.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He did.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He actually wrote me a note and said, if I ever go crazy in the head and quit liking my boyfriend, then.

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[SPEAKER_03]: to let him know.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I actually did.

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[SPEAKER_05]: That's what made to go crazy in that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm still going crazy in the head.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: That's funny.

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[SPEAKER_05]: All crazy in the head.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Well, so like now let's dig into the creativity side because I know I've got it from both of you, but it's all kind of different.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So definitely like movies

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[SPEAKER_03]: unless it's hallmark or something like that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean true.

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[SPEAKER_03]: There were more cheesy movies, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that was it for me.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Well, that was always my secret, my secret guilty pleasure, or whatever, was actually like, I, somewhat enjoyed, somewhat, sorry, I'm public now, so like, I gotta tone it down.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Enjoyed time.

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[SPEAKER_05]: watching cheesy romance homework movies with my mom.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you did a cute one for my birthday or something.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I kind of got to a point where I was like, yeah, it's really cheesy and stuff.

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[SPEAKER_05]: But like, I like filmmaking and so I started respecting how they would do it.

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[SPEAKER_05]: usually in those movies like the script writing was very cheesy, but they would actually do pretty good lighting and so I look at it from different angles and I would check if this is going to resolve later so I kind of liked it for the research part of things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well if we're confessing things a lot of times in the work environment you would have meetings and kind of get to know people type scenario would be tell us something about you that nobody knows.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And there was a couple of times that when that came up, mine was, well, sometimes I actually tear up during Little House on the Prairie.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that was something most people didn't know.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Well that was a good one.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You could, that probably stands up today.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, it's a good movie on how much I cry.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Well, I like all of it.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Like I got a laugh.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I got a cry.

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[SPEAKER_05]: It's got to be cool.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Who's got to be not passive characters.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I don't like passive characters.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So like, I struggled with Rogue One a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Because the, you know, the main character is passive, everything happens to that character and then the reactive versus like I'm on a mission, I have a desire for something.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm going to go after it and pursue something.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You know, even in pursuit, you could be knocked down and stuff.

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[SPEAKER_05]: But so I'm thinking of the pursuit of happiness too is a good movie because he's always trying to get to something even though he gets set back.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So it's not about accomplishing it.

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[SPEAKER_05]: It's just about trying

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[SPEAKER_05]: Those are what kind of movies I like.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So I like Darth Vader when it was at Rogue One.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You know he's the bad guy, but it's because he's the character that actually wanted something.

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[SPEAKER_05]: He was going after the plans to steal it, you know?

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[SPEAKER_05]: Anyways, what?

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[SPEAKER_05]: She don't know anything about any of that.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, she's like, ah, Star Wars.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So I got Star Wars and Lower the Rings from Dad.

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[SPEAKER_05]: From Dad, but we were also anti-herriotic.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we were.

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[SPEAKER_05]: But then I watched it when I was older and I was like, why were we not allowed out of it?

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[SPEAKER_05]: You probably haven't seen it to this day, but it's more of a family movie than Star Wars.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I don't watch Star Wars either.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Anyways though, so fast forward through a lot of things and then I'm there in my child and how I was growing up that I want to point out to you guys, I don't know if I've ever pointed it out, is dad always having those cameras and it wasn't just for home videos, but we would go steal it and usually I was the one that was the camera operator, Caleb got to a point when he would do that.

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[SPEAKER_05]: But then we would have fun and we made stars up so seven before

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[SPEAKER_05]: Disney bought it made stars episode seven so yeah, where's our money I'm kidding you know the IP you know intellectual property so that joke is a more about having six kids you got your whole yeah for you and

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, so sports, making movies, like, whatever it was, we could do it, social media and brain rot, stuff wasn't as much a thing, but TV was a thing and then it stole your attention, which is kind of the same thing.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You've had my video games, you guys had video games.

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[SPEAKER_05]: We played video games, but I will say this is while that is a huge waste of time for a lot of people and it's looked on as a negative.

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[SPEAKER_05]: It brought up so much quality time with other people, so now to this day with video games, I don't like it if it's one player games, or if I'm in it for the, I don't know, maybe a good story could be good, but I'm not, it's not me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I like it for spending time with other people.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The only time that's.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Good is if you're just alone all the time, which isn't good for anyway, but I made it a point when I had the video games when I bought a game I always looked for four player games.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, did you?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Every time because I didn't want one person just sitting there I wanted all of a sudden.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, or several of us at least and

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is many that could participate as possible.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so that's I was the same way multiplayer was the best way Well that route down on me.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah Because now you can like create purpose out of anything and the Eogames could be a tool that brings certain groups of people around and if you actually chat then It's good and I found myself chatting more on video games and other things that people would say is healthy

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that was all before the online stuff, because now you can do online with people.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Not the same as being together, but it's still your, your conversion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But, mom, we don't have a Sega.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm scared of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Everything was a Sega.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: But it was always fun when you would hold a controller and start playing mom's playing.

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[SPEAKER_05]: But anyways, so I'd be like recording stuff and we would be having fun.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And there were some early talks of,

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[SPEAKER_05]: Um, I could see him doing that like when they get older, they're going to make movies and things like that, um, and they were partially right, but

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[SPEAKER_05]: I remember one of the first things you taught me was a special effect.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You taught all of us really.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And it was the VHS cameras or you can pause it or rewind if you have to.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And then when you hit record again, it'll show up just right then and there.

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[SPEAKER_05]: It's not like nowadays where everything's a separate clip and you have to go and edit.

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[SPEAKER_05]: The edit was like in camera by rewinding and stuff or hitting pause.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So if you're on a tripod or hold absolutely still, you could be in a shot and then you would, I'm going to make myself disappear and you would clap like three times, one, two, three, and then you freeze and you wait for dad to say, all right, now move, you know, and then we'd move and then we'd go back in and things like, all right,

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[SPEAKER_05]: and we're out of it and then we'd be like, where do you go?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Where do you go?

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[SPEAKER_05]: But it was always funny because while it would look kind of cool back then, the main person would disappear, but in the background, there was a kid crawling around, there's someone out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Because there was always a kid crawling.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You see, they clocked, jump forward, or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we weren't that good at it, but it was fun.

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[SPEAKER_05]: But you created fun around it and that, like,

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[SPEAKER_05]: be creative in those kind of ways.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And then, mom, I had no idea what I am to add, but I'll think about this.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And I guess technically for the entrepreneurship side of me,

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[SPEAKER_05]: you both were still involved there because we started tailor-made creation video or whatever, and we did one wedding for free, and then stopped, but yeah, we would do some things, and you always had some sort of side gig you were doing and then mom, I just realized like, I think it was two years ago.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I was like,

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[SPEAKER_05]: Dang, you were a hustler.

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[SPEAKER_05]: The thing that you would do for Christmas gifts, you know, more shooting this in the time, right, before Christmas, but by the time it airs, so I think it'll be, it'll be after.

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[SPEAKER_05]: But you would do like bread dough and like you would craft things and then go and sell it at like one of the craft shows and in the mall and things like that.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And I didn't realize till the day and it's like that's what you would use to create extra income for good

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[SPEAKER_05]: And now it's not dad made a lot of money because one time I saw like your pay stub in a car when I was older, it's like, that's a lot of money.

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[SPEAKER_05]: But then I was like, wait, but we're like a family of eight and we need need and like, it wasn't a lot of money.

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[SPEAKER_05]: We break a lot of things and so it was like the cost of living was higher.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So then when you're empty nesters, you can probably like, what do I do?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You can spoil your green kids, but if you spoil your kids, you're going to have to raise your green kids.

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[SPEAKER_05]: But I think you did the first one because our green kids are spoiled.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You send them home with slime, but whatever.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I haven't done that for a while.

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[SPEAKER_05]: But you get to be you.

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[SPEAKER_05]: We get to do whatever we want with it after.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's our problem.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's our problem.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's long as I don't play with it at our house, it's fine to give them slime.

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[SPEAKER_05]: But anyway, it's all of that to say thank you and then also what's your perspective during those times of

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[SPEAKER_05]: like making the bread dough or the crafts and the side jobs, the ruffing, I did ruffing with my dad for a little bit, you know, to make money for camping.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Like the fact that you didn't just give us money, we had him allowance one time.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Two cents per sock or something like that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It was a blast.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You guys didn't care.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I liked it.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I was like, how's my account?

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[SPEAKER_05]: We would ask that out of Gratzel.

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[SPEAKER_05]: We go Gratzel Mountain.

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[SPEAKER_05]: How much money do I have in my account money?

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[SPEAKER_05]: Five dollars.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Wow.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think we made it a year doing that though.

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[SPEAKER_05]: But they was memorable for me.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: As was your perspective and just the hard work.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That was something I knew I could do and still be home with the kids and and it was using my creativity to try to make all the will.

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[SPEAKER_03]: figurines are, I would do necklaces and pins and earrings and all that stuff and they're still people today that still have that stuff.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I hope that when they're hanging their ornament on their tree, they're thinking of us and maybe saying a little prayer or something and it brings back a memory or something but

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[SPEAKER_05]: Well, like hand-made custom-made things, it's never gone away, you know, and we've had more machinery.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And so you could say that it means a lot more today.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And now the machinery craft.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Now it's custom and machinery, though.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Now it's a both and.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's still creative, but.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You do a little both.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And we're doing it together before I did all the little crafty things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it was a one-income, there was a one-in-a-family of the time and we wanted it that way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We decided that we would rather pinch-pins make it

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[SPEAKER_00]: then to have a career that we weren't ever around or mom wasn't ever around or something like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, it was paycheck to paycheck forever.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'd start teaching preschool, but that was after that was in junior high.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The youngest was in junior high and I would he would go to school before I would go to work and I would get home from work before he would

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[SPEAKER_05]: yeah and but you always found ways to of like man this cost money what's weird as like some of some of my memory is is more of like saying I can't first and nowadays it's like I've learned to change that

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[SPEAKER_05]: But I don't like blame you or anything.

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[SPEAKER_05]: It's just like, that's how we were all raised.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And I blame Grandma.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm kidding, I'm kidding.

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[SPEAKER_05]: But what you actually showed was the opposite.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And it wasn't until my maturity to realize that.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Like, you were my biggest critic.

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[SPEAKER_05]: But, and then it was like, wait, no, she's not.

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[SPEAKER_05]: She's actually my biggest fan and you were like for singing and everything like that She'd be like, I remember the first time I tried out for pasting Oh, it was a mess.

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[SPEAKER_05]: That was a mess.

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[SPEAKER_05]: How did God call me to do worship ministry?

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[SPEAKER_05]: You know, like I don't know, but the first time I started singing I'm pasting my

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[SPEAKER_05]: They gave me the chance.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I was off key the whole time.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I could not figure it out and I knew it But I just kept doing it.

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[SPEAKER_05]: It was terrible.

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[SPEAKER_05]: There's no way anybody was like worshiping during that I don't know It was so bad, but I went back and this is a line that stuck with me as you go Well, did you know you were off?

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[SPEAKER_05]: And I said yeah, well, at least you knew So like it was your way of like

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[SPEAKER_05]: actually being constructive and real with how like being that mom's that's like oh I have the best singer you need to go to American Idol he's amazing like yeah but I don't know and then you have my biggest critic too but it's like you always meant well through it yeah because there's people that do that that get off on singing and they think they're hot stuff

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[SPEAKER_00]: but if someone is off and they know they're off, and that means they'll be able to fix it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I know that God has a purpose for every single person and why they're in their family, but I feel lucky.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So I'm really, just in being of one of six, like how do you balance the attention that's needed?

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[SPEAKER_05]: And I remember another time, like another highlight moment, I don't know if you guys forget this, but you tried to make it a thing where every Sunday night, you were intentional for family time, that every Sunday night, we would after church, say it's something I church back then, and they would move to, we would go watch something on packs, or something, we would have like a TV night, a TV day.

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[SPEAKER_05]: looking back.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I think this is a way that you didn't have to cook.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I didn't want to cook.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But we kept it easy on Sunday nights.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So we did snacks and then you're like, we're going to go back and watch, but we're going to pick out a movie and we're going to

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[SPEAKER_05]: every week, it'll change and we'll go to herbs.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I think it was herbs.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it was a great heart dillence, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_05]: It was a good heart dillence.

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[SPEAKER_05]: We also went to a blockbuster a lot for both of us.

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[SPEAKER_05]: We got to hit that round of openers.

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[SPEAKER_05]: This is a we would go in and the first time you're like, all right, we're going to start with Jared.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I don't remember what I picked.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I think I picked a five-layer being to think, you know, something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: But, and then, and then Mountain Dew, like I was a Mountain Dew, but I picked the snack, and then we go and watch the film.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And I remember there was one where guys, like it was like a miracle show.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And the guy got run over.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And there was like tire marks on his head or something.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And then I didn't remember that.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, you see, you don't remember what this is my perception.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And then he was like miraculously healed or made it through or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And so it was always one of those positive and uplifting movies or shows.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So you make more.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Was it DOP was it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No.

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[SPEAKER_05]: No, I think it was like something miracle.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And that was a series.

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[SPEAKER_05]: It was like, oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like mystery is ways.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, mysterious ways.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I love that show.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that didn't last very long.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah

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[SPEAKER_05]: But that's what I remember, but of course there's a soldier now that you bring that up of Blockbuster.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but you know, they also used to have a back in in Disney's really good days.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They had every Sunday night was a Disney movie too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And one, there's a wonderful world of Disney and most of the time we watch the movies.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We also did those, this may be even be, I know for sure with Jonathan and Jess, but we'd watch the animal, what was that, you'd watch the animals.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It was like neutral.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, neutral.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was like neutral.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, neutral.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I remember there were a lot more like TV movies Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Watch and there were things like that.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And you couldn't miss it.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So you're always on the timer.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Nothing was on demand.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So it's on.

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[SPEAKER_05]: No one would.

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[SPEAKER_05]: We just make up games and like it was commercials.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Let's run around the team.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Let's run around the dining room table 10 times.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And then someone would be like, It's back on.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm saying all that, and we can get into more of your side of things, but there's a thread to go through all of that, and we're going to hit that so stay tuned if you feel like this is all random, but there's a thread that goes through all of the seaming randomness.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I can't even talk right now, and I'm on a podcast.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So that's me and then growing up and some people have heard that story in the impact and you always raise me to be a godly person and of course thank you for that.

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[SPEAKER_05]: But now it's like, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I kind of want to, this is kind of a legacy video too.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Like it'll be around longer than we're around.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So.

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[SPEAKER_05]: What was your real perspective on the struggle?

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[SPEAKER_05]: Like you said pay-tech to pay-tech, you're doing side hustles.

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[SPEAKER_05]: What did you protect us from that we didn't really know?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I think mostly it was just protecting you from not having a parent around.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I know I worked a lot, but my mom was on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: always around to do things with and for you guys all the time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I thought that was a very important way to raise kids would be to have a parent around.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's that's the main reason I took on the big responsibility of paycheck to paycheck doing a lot of side work.

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[SPEAKER_00]: all through the years, it was like two jobs basically, um, but I, you know, I feel like God blessed us through all that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And we had a really bad time.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they didn't have many.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We didn't have garteries and can you like pinpoint one specifically that maybe I can remember?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I don't know if you'd remember it or not, we were living in the house on Taylor Street.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and we were literally I'd uh,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I quit my job because I thought that was a good idea because of doing some other things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it was two years later after that and we were in a pretty rough, rough patch there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wasn't making any money.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was trying to do some real estate.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a bad winner.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Was that your recent nickels time?

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[SPEAKER_00]: that was my recent nickels time but it wasn't recent nickels at the time it was just it was only JD Reese so they hadn't merged yet but and I was new at it and you know one of the things if you're going to be real estate make sure someone has an income in your family

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh, especially starting out, and uh, but I didn't, and uh, the real estate office wanted you to work full-time real estate and want you to do anything else, but I actually was doing okay with everyone, so they allowed me to work part-time, so I would do some side stuff, that's kind of why campus going.

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[SPEAKER_00]: do a little bit of remodeling here and there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it was December.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we were two months late on our van payment.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was about to get repode.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we just didn't have any money.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't remember, you know, someone stopped by the house with and just a envelope.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Is that what you're talking about?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And they said an angel and angel said to

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, yeah, it was a kid in the neighborhood that gave it to us.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't the actual version.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it was a kid and then when we opened it up, it was so many that was very needed at the time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How much was it?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Do you remember $100 or $1,000, I think?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Which back then, you know, now it's like $100 or $1,000,000,000,000.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But back then, $100 was a big deal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was trying to come up with,

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[SPEAKER_00]: you know a job and things like that we're looking for some stuff and and I had had what six or seven years working for the school district and we saw him as a custodian and that's a little job I quit to do my own thing and she's like well once you ask for your job back at least some and I'm like it's also had to go stay

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, because our pipes were frozen because we're so cold in there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so we weren't even at the house, the pipes were frozen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we was at her parents and on the way home, that one evening, back to Pleasant Hill, we were having the conversation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And she's like, why don't you call the school district and see if you can get your old job back?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I said, because it doesn't work that way at the school district, it's totally different.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would never get my old job back because I had a day position there that everybody wanted.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they're very hard to get.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if even if they did harm me, I would be on evenings and I would never see the kids.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I said, I'm not going to do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It just, it won't work that way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I said, if they want, if they want to be back, they'd have to call me anyway.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not calling them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this is a true story, we were one mile from home.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And when we were having this conversation, and we pulled in the driveway, went in the house.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And back then, we had these little boxes by the phone called an answering machine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No one had cell phones, so there's just an answering machine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The red light was blanking on it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So what we even normally do is just hit it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: While we were carrying stuff in and we hit it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it was my old boss at the school district.

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[SPEAKER_00]: calling asking me if I wanted to my old job back.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, and it wasn't even you prompting it or anything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No one even knew we had this conversation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I hadn't mentioned to anyone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd like to have a job back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: or anything, and he just said, Dave, this is Wade, your old boss and your old position at the school is coming open and we just thought maybe you might want to come back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that time was like two months.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've been gone two years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, this is two years now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've been gone two years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was pretty unusual.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So anyway, some people wonder if they're even remembered.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they're like, I don't know how to get him back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they asked me to come back and when I called him the next day, he said, well, it's not done deal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You got to go through the interview and I remember saying, oh, yeah, yeah, whatever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because there's no way this wasn't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: a god thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there's no way it wasn't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I called the car loan company, which was Ford credit and I said, hey, I'm getting my old job back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't even, I mean, I didn't go through the interview again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they're like, oh, okay, well fine, we'll just tack your old payments on the end of your note and you're good to go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so we didn't lose our vein.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Back then, thanks and things would do for you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you know, just things like that got us through.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We had a financial advisor come to our house and go through our finances one time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This was after we were in the house right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And after he went through everything, he literally said,

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's looking at our stuff and he looks at me and goes, this is impossible.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And like what is, because you can't survive on this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I said, well, if you look around, we are.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we're doing it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, God's been through the whole thing of our lives, raising kids, and yeah, there were a lot of definite knows we're not doing this, we're, you're not getting this, or we can't, and it was mostly financial driven, you know, so, but man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: a lot of blessings back then that we didn't realize at the time or blessings, even, but just a lot of things like that that, you know, God just always provided force and it's cool to look back on now.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I broke quick.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Mom, what was like your side through all that because

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[SPEAKER_05]: You were the one that was staying home.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Not necessarily jobless.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You can't say jobless, no, because it was a job.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And it paid off.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: It paid off.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I got six great kids that love the Lord.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yep, and she's my favorite mom, so.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And you're her favorite third kid.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: My first perspective is when he wanted to.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He wanted to quit his steady job and

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[SPEAKER_03]: go into Rola State and I think you did in hand to memoirs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I was doing my own business at that time.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And then you went into Rola State.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that was your half later.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I wasn't necessarily on board for it, that I still support him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But in my mind, I'm like, what are you doing?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And you had to have, like, probably, you could say more faith.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, we had some bad moments, but God always blessed and took care of us and he always provided what we needed.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So somehow, for some reason, and that's what I've learned, and that's what I've gone through as well.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So we'll put a thread through that just,

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[SPEAKER_05]: in a little bit stay tuned to get.

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[SPEAKER_05]: It's like an end, but I want to pivot just in moving to a section for all those marketers and branders out there.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You two have a business again.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So.

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[SPEAKER_05]: But this one is the one that's the passion, at least it's seemingly for me, it feels more fitting for both of you to be doing something that you both enjoy doing and you bring you both of your different areas of expertise into it and that's like woodworking and crafts.

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[SPEAKER_05]: combining those, and you have, is it tailored creations, right?

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[SPEAKER_05]: Tailoring.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So we brought back the name, pretty close to it.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And what's the website?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Tailoredcreations.us.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, no apostrophe.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No apostrophe.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just DTA while or D creations.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You ask.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because there's no apostrophe and no.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because there's no apostrophe.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there's more that means the apostrophe.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's more that means the apostrophe.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Well, so you've been doing that.

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[SPEAKER_05]: But then also,

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[SPEAKER_00]: and i don't i don't think it was related right your youtube channel it wasn't really but now it kind of is right not yet but it's gonna be maybe i might do a different channel because the channel i've that i've done is more i don't know it's different than what i'm doing now so i don't know whether to transition that one

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[SPEAKER_00]: to what we're doing or create another channel to go with what we're doing and keep doing what I was doing on this other channel.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So if we had time, we could decide that live in the podcast.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I could help you back at the same time, though.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So mom, what was your reaction to when dad got a paycheck from YouTube?

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[SPEAKER_05]: Like, it doesn't matter what the amount was.

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[SPEAKER_05]: It's just

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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, you need to do something more important with your life, you know, but it's kind of like, you can't do music.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You need to make a living like, but then YouTube was always that thing of, oh, it's, it's not real.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You're never going to get paid from it or anything like that.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And not that you make a living off of it right now, but they've been close.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: But like you, you get paid by a Google company.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So like when you're so- Right now he's getting paid in these and I don't really do anything.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He needs to do more, yes.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But we were just excited.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I thought, oh, that's pretty cool.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He was just doing it for fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: See, because that media creation side that you have a passion for was a little bit of my passion not as much as you had.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you ample, but that's why I started the YouTube channel because I'm like, I love doing that stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if I can, I mean, I feel like, honestly, that that channel has helped some people, and I'm basing that on the comments, I get.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I get some really good comments, I think I've had.

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[SPEAKER_00]: maybe one or two negative comments the whole time that had the channel.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Most of them are, oh thank you for showing me that or explaining that or teaching me how to do that or reviewing that product or something like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now I know, I want to get that one or now I know how to fix this and that kind of thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I get a lot of comments like that and

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[SPEAKER_00]: Almost every video I do not quite everyone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have my dog in there in the video and I get a lot of comments of All your dog is I love your dog.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What's your dog?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know stuff like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's been a lot of fun doing it if you want to learn the dog's name You gotta go watch as YouTube So it's pricey hasn't says his name yet

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't say it now, they've got to watch it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't say it, man, I don't even say it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But a lot of people ask me about the dog.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so it's been fun to do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I do enjoy it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But then I haven't put a video up for several months now.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, that's time consuming.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is time consuming.

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[SPEAKER_05]: OK, tell me about the time consumption.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Well, I'll tell the listeners like how much

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so whatever you're doing, it will at least double your time on doing it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like if you're fixing something, the time you have to take to position your camera.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Make sure you're getting a good shot set up before you even do anything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And most of the thing, not everything, because some of them are...

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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, I'll buy something that I want for the house.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not something I get to review, but I want it for us.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm like, oh, maybe I'll review it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, that kind of thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But on the fix it stuff, it doubles your time to fix it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And there's honestly just times I'm like, I'm getting ready to do something.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm thinking, I need to video this and that, but then I'm like, no, I just want to get it done.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just got to get it done, so I just do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't have time to set up and everything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's hard in that regard because there's a lot of things that I've skipped video and then I wish I would have, but I just had to get it done.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so it does multiply your time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you have to set down and edit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you've got to edit it, you've got to rent, you've got to post it, you've got to,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, get the thumb.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You got it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, so there's a lot of time involved.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not, I don't know, it's, it's still fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's time consuming and it's not a cakewalk.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I won't say, you know, a lot of people's, oh, it's really hard work doing YouTube.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it is, but it's not hard physically.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah, but it's it's time consuming more than it's hard.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so that's the hard part I guess is the time and you just got to take the time to do it or you have to Which I haven't done yet figured out a way to Do the thing in one shot while the camera's rolling and I thought of some ideas because I've seen some other people do it where I just video it and then I narrate it so I may go to that

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[SPEAKER_00]: aspect of it instead of.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because when I do it, I try to explain what I'm doing while I'm doing it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But if I probably if I just do it and then go back later and narrate it, it might be easier.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot of people doing that now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I actually have enjoyed watching those kind of videos.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And those kind of videos a little bit on a few times.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But he's video, I don't even know it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I was walked in on a, in a real podcast one, too.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: We need that on air.

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[SPEAKER_05]: There's on air signs everywhere, except for like this.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_05]: The YouTube, and that's pretty cool.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I definitely get that side from Dad, and you showed me all of the,

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[SPEAKER_05]: All of that.

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[SPEAKER_05]: What's funny is like how we all get a piece of You from them because there's ways that I can't relate to you that you can relate to Zach or to Andrew or yeah To the Caleb and now I got to list all of them Jonathan and Jessica.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah Yeah, I thought of that often that there's there's little pieces of us in each one and it's a little bit different and there's

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[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of you guys are living out my passions when I was growing up and through the young adult years, the passions I had, you guys are actually living out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's good.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So there's one thing.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm wondering if it's, I don't know who's it's from, but I'm an idea person, always full of ideas, and I could relate this to this, even though they're seemingly unrelated.

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[SPEAKER_05]: you give me a challenge, I can do it, but does that come from you?

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[SPEAKER_05]: Who's that come from?

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think they've never I did.

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[SPEAKER_05]: But you always like ran Sunday schools and things like that too.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So like, and then you would do craft creativity.

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[SPEAKER_05]: graphic design.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But I have my opinions too.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I think I get the joke.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I just said right on that.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Definitely get the jokes from dad, but the talk effectiveness or whatever, like dad's more introverted.

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[SPEAKER_05]: He's really good with people though.

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[SPEAKER_05]: It's not like.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You're anti-social sometimes sometimes sometimes sometimes.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I agree.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You've got family things, Phil.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Just.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_05]: A retreat.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We're all here for family.

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[SPEAKER_05]: But then there was that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Of course that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It gets too noisy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's too loud.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It goes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It does sound too annoying.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have to escape.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: But you never complain.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Like you could easily go.

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[SPEAKER_05]: It's darn too loud in here.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And then you leave and storm off.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Like you never.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's not a floor a few times.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, that was different.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'll just wander off.

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[SPEAKER_05]: But growing up with five other siblings, I became an extrovert.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm really an amrovert where I'm both and then Rose pushed me over to be a stronger extrovert and church life and church leadership.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You kind of have to and it's pushed me into how to talk to people better.

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[SPEAKER_05]: But I was always recharged by being around people.

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[SPEAKER_05]: because of the noise that was always so constant and being around so many brothers and one sister.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So that like there was one time at a camp I couldn't sleep.

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[SPEAKER_05]: It was too quiet.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So I actually went in a room where everyone's goofing off and being loud and I felt right asleep.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's funny.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So I need that storm that Jesus slept in.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So it was interesting, but my thoughts were all internal.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And that's another part of being an introvert or extrovert.

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[SPEAKER_05]: But being around Rose now, a rubbed off on me, I think out loud a lot more now.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And sometimes that's probably crossed the line where maybe I shouldn't have thought I'd loud for that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You probably got to have for me, because I can do that.

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[SPEAKER_05]: But from YouTube, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I didn't talk a lot either though, I don't know, at school, and stuff, I wasn't, I was the quiet kid, everyone thought I was smart because I was quiet, but jokes on them, I got bees.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I remember getting a name mail from one of your teachers.

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[SPEAKER_03]: What was that?

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[SPEAKER_03]: She said that you're a good student and you are a quiet leader.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Now I'm a loud leader.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I was getting a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little

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[SPEAKER_05]: Um, and tell you about that.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know if you've thought of that.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I think of this all the time.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm like, man, we can't sit down and just tell them all this stuff.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So it's good to put it on air because then it's real, right?

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[SPEAKER_05]: Now, but you guys always did like the craft shows.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You're always hustling to get things done.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And that and that's real cool.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And now that's what you're doing for your business.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So describe that just a little bit of like what you do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, so I've always been into woodworking.

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[SPEAKER_00]: doing things with wood, my mom has always been into crafty things, little.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Very craft.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Always working on crafts, doing things, even when it's for nothing, or just a gift for someone or something for her house or something, she's always doing crafts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know, the older I get, the more I think about the possibility of retirement.

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[SPEAKER_00]: but I don't want to retire and not do anything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My thought was, and I don't know if this was a good one or not, I guess, time will tell.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I got to thinking about, I do woodworking.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She does crafts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What is something that brings woodworking and crafts together?

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[SPEAKER_00]: A laser.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you're in a half ago or so, I bought a laser.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so I get A and B connecting from that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Probably.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I thought that would be cool because then we could do something together rather than me just out doing stuff and her being bored watching home art movies.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we got the laser and we've slowly started working our way because it's still a few years for me to retire.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I want to start eventually, hopefully within the next several months, making a little bit of income from it, possibly, it would be nice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that was the thought behind it was starting this business called tailored creations.

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[SPEAKER_00]: took forever to think of a name and then I thought tailored creations we were talking about and so that would be good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've never heard of it and then I get on and search it and thousands of tailored creations of mics.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Everything came up with someone's already thought of.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And but there were none in Missouri.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we formed an LLC and we have tailored creations and we just kind of did a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We still haven't profited from it because of buying everything

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to use the term made a little bit of money, although it's not profit for the business.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, that works, everyone knows how that works.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But we've actually made a little bit of traction and starting to get people to...

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[SPEAKER_00]: to see us and figuring out ways.

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[SPEAKER_00]: One of the things that I was always bad at, always instill them is marketing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And because I've started quite a few businesses in the past, but I don't know how to market it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they would just fail when I would quit.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You didn't really realize many businesses started.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm starting to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was terrible at marketing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so nothing ever really gained traction.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And because I was just a doer, I'm not a marketer, like a couple of my businesses were like a handy man type services, fixing stuff at houses for people.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Home inspections and you do that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I did home and now that one was actually

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[SPEAKER_00]: That one was actually starting to get some traction, and that probably would have worked, but what happened there was my knee issues, because I was the kind of home inspector that crawled into addicts and crawl spaces and got back in addicts and found stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you're six, three, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're six, two.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but that wasn't even the point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I still did it, and there was one time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That I crawled into an attic and my knees kind of locked up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I had our arthritis really bad, so my knees They weren't working for me, and I didn't think I was gonna get out of the attic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, so at that point I'm like So I either do junk inspections by not going in the attic or I don't do them One of the other

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to do junk inspection so that's so that one actually probably would have continued so that was for a different reason, but but most of them they I just didn't market well and So I never gained anything on them this one as feels a little bit different because I'm trying to scale slow

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to scale fast.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Most businesses want to scale fast.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to scale really slow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm doing a little bit of the time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I've actually had a few sales from people I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Or there there that there was no connection.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Not very many, but a few.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was kind of cool just to see that happen because it makes you know that it can happen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Before it's just, you know, it's just who are you connected to that might know someone, which is good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a good way to build a business.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But so, you know, I know social media is a big part of it nowadays.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And one of the ways I got some of those sales was through Facebook ads.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't realize you ran ads.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I did at one time one time

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it I did and but again, there's a reason I stopped okay for now.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we're busy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's just because I did it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like oops, it works Yeah, so because in my mind, I'm thinking well how busy do I want to get right at this moment?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I can only do so much and the funny thing is it's hats.

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[SPEAKER_00]: One of my, as much as I like woodworking, one of my favorite things to make is hats.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's wearing one right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm wearing one right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Got to watch on YouTube if you're listening.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it, uh,

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I put the ad out for with some ads.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And somewhat the North Carolina, as I went to Iowa, you know, stuff like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's kind of cool to see that that's a possibility.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just, I just wasn't at the point of where I wanted to keep pushing it yet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I told her after the first of the year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's kind of going to be a little bit of a push and trying to get, this is just such a busy time and we've done a couple of craft shows recently and all your time is put into making products for your craft show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's why I kind of backed off of that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I saw it could work.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so now I know it can work.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and I'll eventually do that again, but I'm still just not very good at marketing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And there's some tools I'd like to try that I might try after the first of the year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, for products there's cool AI tools.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Some AI tools I've been seeing and then I would like to try out and we'll see how that goes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and just kind of go from there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm kind of looking forward to that, but again, I'm trying to scale really slow.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I get it.

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[SPEAKER_05]: and because in a lot of ways you need that character development and you need the system development to be able to roll into it.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And if you had like a million sales or like something goes viral and you got a million, well you're calling all of us.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And we're going to have pizza and we're going to all get paid to help you.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: But um

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[SPEAKER_00]: like that's probably would have to happen at that point and yeah it's funny because it's a hopeful thing but then it's a scary thing too because I work a full-time job and I like my job I'm not ready to quit my job.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But some day soon, well, maybe not soon, but some day in a few years, I'm gonna want to retire from that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so hopefully I'll have some things in place that at that point, then I can really start scaling a little bit more even.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: We always have about you gotta get scalable first.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Right, because with our business,

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[SPEAKER_05]: it needs to have, you need to have your system, you need to have at least a website, something so if you were to make more or get more sales and inquiries from our podcast, can you handle that?

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[SPEAKER_05]: Because if you can't, it's going to look really bad on us and they get it really like, Milton's working, you know?

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[SPEAKER_05]: And like, well, actually you had two million views this

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[SPEAKER_05]: did you collect any of those right like we're not on the sale side is the struggle for us so you can't like track because we're not in charge of them asking right how did you hear about us or like if if they have an IT person and they do those there's like secret codes and links it's called like a UTM

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[SPEAKER_05]: It's actually not a secret, but they added on to links so they know where it came from.

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[SPEAKER_05]: They could be like, oh, it came from social media or it came from this.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And you have to get real smart with that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So what you're saying is my thought process is our correct.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because I try to think of things like the hat and just take the hats for instance.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mike, okay, if I get a hat order in my ready to put them in a box.

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[SPEAKER_00]: do I have a box?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What box do I need?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I need to get boxes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I need tape to take those boxes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How am I going to ship it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I need to make sure I have all that lined out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I got all my shipping stuff lined out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I got a label printer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I got, you know, to do prepaid labels.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I got a scale to weigh everything so that

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[SPEAKER_00]: When I'm ready, if someone orders a hat, I'm ready to make it and ship it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so that's kind of in the whole realm of things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's to how I'm trying to think.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I don't think of everything.

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[SPEAKER_05]: But I would rush to get scalable.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, faster because in like these days, any sort of, you have to be on social media, right?

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[SPEAKER_05]: And but then there's that risk of you could get viral.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And, but if that happens, it's supposed to be a good thing.

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[SPEAKER_05]: It's supposed to be.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So, if you're ready for it, if you put a layer there, like either you make a wait list or something, and you're transparent, hey guys, we're going to get to you when we can, these things take time, and you just create that expectation.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So, not all the pressures on you, because if you had overnight, 10 million views on something for a hat that 10 million people wanted, like what would

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[SPEAKER_05]: It would be horrible to think of the money and then what can money buy, it can buy scale.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So you could go and buy a shop and get people to make it for you and then there's your skill, skill ability.

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[SPEAKER_05]: But if you think of it as only you can do it, then it's going to put all that pressure on you.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_05]: it's the medium.

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[SPEAKER_05]: It's like in between that massive to nothing is what's hard.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Getting to that point.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And usually that's the story.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And there's a lot of scary things too that I've thought of.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought, well, what if I advertise this hat?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I run out of this particular hat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can make the patches, but what if I run out of the patch material?

58:16.533 --> 58:17.915
[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to take me a week to get it.

58:19.497 --> 58:21.799
[SPEAKER_00]: Or if I order the

58:23.146 --> 58:25.696
[SPEAKER_00]: and they're like, oh, we're out of that hat right now.

58:26.097 --> 58:27.162
[SPEAKER_00]: We don't know when we're getting them.

58:28.206 --> 58:30.695
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, so there's all those thoughts that come in my head.

58:30.736 --> 58:32.683
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, so I really gotta be careful.

58:33.271 --> 58:40.603
[SPEAKER_00]: you know how much inventory do I purchase up front of everything I think I need a little bit but I don't want to go overboard either.

58:41.184 --> 58:43.148
[SPEAKER_00]: So there's just so much thought into that.

58:43.208 --> 58:53.946
[SPEAKER_00]: That's that's why I'm trying to go a little bit slow with it and get the word out, get some product out, I've given away a lot of stuff, um, and

58:53.926 --> 58:57.093
[SPEAKER_05]: you're doing it in person craft style right now is what it looks like.

58:57.113 --> 58:59.999
[SPEAKER_00]: Well mostly yeah, you'll go craft shows do pop up things.

59:00.200 --> 59:03.928
[SPEAKER_00]: Right, well we've done a couple, but we don't only want to do that.

59:04.008 --> 59:06.153
[SPEAKER_00]: I'd like to most of it beyond lying.

59:06.373 --> 59:09.099
[SPEAKER_03]: But then too, the mill was taken forever.

59:09.159 --> 59:10.382
[SPEAKER_03]: So it was worried about.

59:10.362 --> 59:12.929
[SPEAKER_00]: shipings always in the shoe.

59:13.250 --> 59:19.106
[SPEAKER_00]: It gets delayed and even though it's in the mail has been shipped, it still looks bad on me.

59:20.310 --> 59:25.384
[SPEAKER_00]: Even though it's, I'm not going to say, I'm not going to say it was USPS or anything.

59:25.364 --> 59:43.896
[SPEAKER_00]: but it's so don't say yeah I'm not going to so it looks you know again can look bad on them that it's all it happened this time of year it's just one of the things yeah so you worry about that too because people email you how come I haven't got my product yet well it's been in the mail since this date and they're showing that it's delayed and

59:43.876 --> 59:49.808
[SPEAKER_05]: Some thought that I have is I want to get involved if I can muster up the time.

59:49.869 --> 59:51.572
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, and just work.

59:51.652 --> 59:52.133
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm with you.

59:52.173 --> 59:57.525
[SPEAKER_05]: That's what I did do a revenue share or like, I don't like, I want to I want to join back in.

01:00:00.130 --> 01:00:03.437
[SPEAKER_05]: Join in all help with the process or something because I'm thinking of like,

01:00:03.417 --> 01:00:27.619
[SPEAKER_05]: set up like those warehouses where they're the ones that ship it so you'd like you make it and then just ship it to them and they'll fulfill it like Amazon warehouse and other things and right now that that would cost money that you probably don't have right right that's and that's if you're in the ads too at the same time as doing that and then they handle the stock but then how many of that then see that's part of the issue that I have in my thought process

01:00:27.599 --> 01:00:30.642
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, just we'll take this hat I got on out and says freedom on it.

01:00:30.843 --> 01:00:35.808
[SPEAKER_00]: How many freedom hats do I make to send to the fulfillment.

01:00:35.928 --> 01:00:36.228
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:00:36.248 --> 01:00:39.352
[SPEAKER_00]: Place, you know, selling out's good though.

01:00:39.372 --> 01:00:39.832
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I know.

01:00:39.892 --> 01:00:40.453
[SPEAKER_00]: So you hit.

01:00:40.513 --> 01:00:44.518
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I get that, but still, you got to think about what's that.

01:00:44.858 --> 01:00:45.619
[SPEAKER_00]: What's that level?

01:00:45.999 --> 01:00:46.800
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you go overboard?

01:00:46.820 --> 01:00:49.463
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you keep it less than that?

01:00:49.563 --> 01:00:54.028
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you, you know, that kind of thing just to just to kind of, uh,

01:00:55.105 --> 01:01:00.971
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I'm putting money in the business, but how much do I put in it to get to a certain point?

01:01:01.032 --> 01:01:02.793
[SPEAKER_00]: I know the more you put in, the more you get out.

01:01:04.235 --> 01:01:05.336
[SPEAKER_00]: Most of the time.

01:01:05.937 --> 01:01:06.197
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:01:06.778 --> 01:01:07.258
[SPEAKER_00]: Not always.

01:01:07.278 --> 01:01:10.582
[SPEAKER_05]: Most of the time, it just takes the time to measure that.

01:01:10.882 --> 01:01:12.704
[SPEAKER_05]: And that's what you got to do, though, is test and measure.

01:01:13.185 --> 01:01:13.485
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

01:01:13.505 --> 01:01:16.569
[SPEAKER_05]: So, tested more affordability if I lost this.

01:01:16.889 --> 01:01:17.510
[SPEAKER_05]: Right.

01:01:17.830 --> 01:01:19.672
[SPEAKER_05]: So, start with a few hundred.

01:01:19.812 --> 01:01:20.573
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's the thing.

01:01:20.593 --> 01:01:23.256
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I always keep in mind is, is it okay?

01:01:23.236 --> 01:01:29.364
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's never okay, but will I accept the fact that maybe I've lost this money?

01:01:29.724 --> 01:01:31.647
[SPEAKER_05]: I tested it in that one, so it did really bad.

01:01:32.127 --> 01:01:32.327
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

01:01:32.347 --> 01:01:35.011
[SPEAKER_05]: I was doing hats e-commerce, but it was all drop shipping.

01:01:35.231 --> 01:01:35.491
[SPEAKER_05]: Right.

01:01:35.872 --> 01:01:38.776
[SPEAKER_05]: So I didn't have to, you know, worry about it.

01:01:38.796 --> 01:01:39.917
[SPEAKER_05]: They would always fulfill it.

01:01:39.997 --> 01:01:40.237
[SPEAKER_05]: Right.

01:01:40.818 --> 01:01:45.043
[SPEAKER_05]: But I put like $100 of Facebook ads.

01:01:45.064 --> 01:01:46.305
[SPEAKER_05]: I was like, how many do I need it?

01:01:46.585 --> 01:01:49.429
[SPEAKER_05]: How much do I need to put in before SESL?

01:01:49.848 --> 01:01:51.671
[SPEAKER_05]: And I saw a sale from some random guy.

01:01:51.771 --> 01:01:54.835
[SPEAKER_05]: Some random guy out there has this hat that I'm wearing right now.

01:01:54.895 --> 01:01:58.480
[SPEAKER_05]: There's been a couple of in-person sales I've made.

01:01:58.941 --> 01:01:59.982
[SPEAKER_05]: But then that was it.

01:02:00.002 --> 01:02:01.825
[SPEAKER_05]: And I was like, man, I don't like e-commerce.

01:02:02.686 --> 01:02:03.367
[SPEAKER_05]: Like I love it.

01:02:03.808 --> 01:02:04.849
[SPEAKER_05]: I want to do marketing for it.

01:02:05.390 --> 01:02:06.852
[SPEAKER_05]: And I understand the process and everything.

01:02:07.413 --> 01:02:11.078
[SPEAKER_05]: But this isn't the business type that I called to do.

01:02:11.278 --> 01:02:12.259
[SPEAKER_05]: So I'm in the scope of work.

01:02:12.580 --> 01:02:14.202
[SPEAKER_05]: So I start focusing on other things.

01:02:14.182 --> 01:02:19.176
[SPEAKER_05]: And that's where, like, if I can find partnerships with other people that are in that, we can help their marketing.

01:02:19.377 --> 01:02:20.560
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I want to make the stuff.

01:02:20.921 --> 01:02:29.305
[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't want to just take the order and, I mean, I like making money, but at the same time, I like to make the stuff that's the only reason we...

01:02:29.723 --> 01:02:30.003
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:02:30.023 --> 01:02:31.505
[SPEAKER_00]: We don't have to do what we're doing.

01:02:31.525 --> 01:02:35.711
[SPEAKER_05]: So you need to start out like not D to C, which is direct to consumer.

01:02:36.552 --> 01:02:40.137
[SPEAKER_05]: Start out by going and finding like local shops if you haven't already.

01:02:40.157 --> 01:02:40.798
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah.

01:02:41.419 --> 01:02:43.021
[SPEAKER_05]: And they store your stuff.

01:02:43.041 --> 01:02:43.281
[SPEAKER_05]: Right.

01:02:43.642 --> 01:02:44.803
[SPEAKER_00]: We thought of that as well.

01:02:45.244 --> 01:02:46.065
[SPEAKER_00]: That would be a good.

01:02:46.225 --> 01:02:47.547
[SPEAKER_00]: So they take portions.

01:02:47.907 --> 01:02:48.168
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:02:48.969 --> 01:02:49.069
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:02:49.089 --> 01:02:50.110
[SPEAKER_00]: We thought of that as well.

01:02:50.371 --> 01:02:53.134
[SPEAKER_00]: We probably won't be to that point until actually the first year at least.

01:02:53.335 --> 01:02:55.798
[SPEAKER_00]: Because how many hours can you put into this right now?

01:02:56.032 --> 01:02:56.653
[SPEAKER_00]: Not a lot.

01:02:57.214 --> 01:03:03.162
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but I don't know we've been putting more in than we thought we wanted to in the month of December.

01:03:05.405 --> 01:03:05.505
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:03:05.886 --> 01:03:06.306
[SPEAKER_00]: That's good.

01:03:06.747 --> 01:03:09.370
[SPEAKER_00]: But see, I don't mind because I do this out of the house.

01:03:09.631 --> 01:03:17.181
[SPEAKER_00]: So I would rather be in the garage working on stuff than just setting around, even though I love watching YouTube videos as well.

01:03:18.043 --> 01:03:21.968
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to set around for five or six hours every evening watching YouTube videos.

01:03:22.148 --> 01:03:25.633
[SPEAKER_00]: I want to go out and go out and go out and make it.

01:03:25.681 --> 01:03:27.864
[SPEAKER_00]: even though I'm working, I'm still at home.

01:03:27.884 --> 01:03:28.966
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what I mean.

01:03:29.046 --> 01:03:31.791
[SPEAKER_00]: So it doesn't feel as much like work.

01:03:32.211 --> 01:03:32.772
[SPEAKER_00]: I know what you got.

01:03:32.792 --> 01:03:33.614
[SPEAKER_05]: Because I'm at home.

01:03:34.034 --> 01:03:34.836
[SPEAKER_05]: I know what you need to do.

01:03:35.597 --> 01:03:37.059
[SPEAKER_05]: I think you're already doing it, actually.

01:03:37.299 --> 01:03:42.087
[SPEAKER_05]: What I suggest as your son is...

01:03:42.067 --> 01:04:09.643
[SPEAKER_05]: to move towards high end things that you do like a higher quality in higher end but less of the quantity so you can focus in on that so if you get five sales it's like those were all 5,000 each yeah or whatever you know like you're walking the halls and there's paintings in here

01:04:10.433 --> 01:04:16.402
[SPEAKER_05]: and art is art in people love art and it's perceived value of what's worth it to you.

01:04:17.126 --> 01:04:19.296
[SPEAKER_05]: There's people out there that would buy your

01:04:20.052 --> 01:04:26.279
[SPEAKER_05]: What are you working on tables or like, what was it like, no, we've just been doing crafty things.

01:04:26.299 --> 01:04:28.842
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, porch liners or ornaments.

01:04:28.862 --> 01:04:39.814
[SPEAKER_00]: But we've had the comments that our stuff was higher end or felt higher end because instead of particle wood, we used soft wood, you know, things like that.

01:04:40.595 --> 01:04:47.983
[SPEAKER_00]: So my original thought was I think where you were going was I was talking about making high end dining tables.

01:04:47.963 --> 01:04:58.238
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and those the profit margin on those are a lot you sell one or two and you've made a lot of money They're a lot of work.

01:04:58.258 --> 01:05:12.098
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but you've made a pretty decent amount of money I'm kind of backing off on that a little bit only because two reasons my space is very small

01:05:12.162 --> 01:05:13.303
[SPEAKER_00]: to build big tables.

01:05:14.184 --> 01:05:23.915
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't really have, I mean, I could do one, but I would have to completely complete it and ship it or call it from me.

01:05:23.935 --> 01:05:34.246
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the other reason, though, is because I've noticed over the last several years that I don't have the best shoulders and things hurt.

01:05:34.626 --> 01:05:42.034
[SPEAKER_00]: And so I'm thinking about these four by eight for a large table, solid wood that's two inches thick,

01:05:42.588 --> 01:06:09.810
[SPEAKER_00]: I got to buck those things around and they get pretty heavy and if I'm constantly moving those I don't know what that's going to do to me so I don't want to rely on that because the way things are now who knows how I'll be in five years the stuff we're doing now I can handle easily and the hats of course I can do that out of a wheelchair so it's

01:06:09.790 --> 01:06:14.175
[SPEAKER_00]: We have to move that because I couldn't go down the stairs in my wheelchair.

01:06:14.415 --> 01:06:18.319
[SPEAKER_00]: But that's why I've kind of come away from that little.

01:06:18.400 --> 01:06:22.284
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not out of the picture completely yet because I'm indefinitely going to build her one.

01:06:22.784 --> 01:06:24.446
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's one who's scaling up.

01:06:24.466 --> 01:06:26.709
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and who knows what it'll do after that.

01:06:26.769 --> 01:06:30.153
[SPEAKER_00]: And I might find that I can get the right tools, the rolling tables.

01:06:31.034 --> 01:06:32.996
[SPEAKER_00]: There's nowhere in my garage to put them on.

01:06:33.096 --> 01:06:36.760
[SPEAKER_00]: We'd have to build a detached garage.

01:06:37.465 --> 01:07:06.527
[SPEAKER_05]: What's weird is there's like three fast facets or sides of these things as business owners and product creators is we usually like to make something and then push the sale when in reality you'll do much better if you ask or observe what people actually need instead of pushing it then it's like oh I can make something of that based on

01:07:06.997 --> 01:07:07.478
[SPEAKER_05]: this.

01:07:07.518 --> 01:07:09.841
[SPEAKER_05]: That's where customizations are cool.

01:07:09.881 --> 01:07:18.595
[SPEAKER_05]: But then you leave creativity in the hands of those who are not going to take action because if you don't think of it then how do they know where to go?

01:07:18.735 --> 01:07:23.723
[SPEAKER_05]: So now you need like the hey come to us for this and kind of marketing but

01:07:24.749 --> 01:07:25.170
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know.

01:07:25.190 --> 01:07:33.541
[SPEAKER_05]: It's like, there's so many areas around that and for us, it started with videos and making whatever for anybody.

01:07:33.581 --> 01:07:35.524
[SPEAKER_05]: And then it was like, wait, hold on.

01:07:35.945 --> 01:07:37.026
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't enjoy weddings.

01:07:37.527 --> 01:07:39.029
[SPEAKER_05]: Therefore, I'm in charge of my business.

01:07:39.329 --> 01:07:40.191
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't have to do weddings.

01:07:41.292 --> 01:07:43.836
[SPEAKER_05]: And then it's like, okay, what do people actually like?

01:07:43.896 --> 01:07:45.718
[SPEAKER_05]: And I was like, oh, people like testimonials.

01:07:45.799 --> 01:07:48.943
[SPEAKER_05]: They were starting to bite on that, you know, if you will.

01:07:49.724 --> 01:07:52.528
[SPEAKER_05]: And so then we would make testimonials.

01:07:52.762 --> 01:08:17.942
[SPEAKER_05]: got good at that, but then we started doing podcast and I've always kinded on podcasts throughout with like, you know, we had one of the curiosity dudes over here with Drew and that one was fun, but that one was more of like a learning of like how to run a podcast and then there was like submitting it from the church and all the church stuff and learning all of it through there.

01:08:17.922 --> 01:08:26.128
[SPEAKER_05]: But then I realized, man, if you create clips for these podcasts, it does so much for social media.

01:08:27.111 --> 01:08:31.645
[SPEAKER_05]: And then so then we started rolling in more into video podcasting.

01:08:32.317 --> 01:08:40.259
[SPEAKER_05]: And I got my first podcast only client, like I started one with my business coach, and we were partnership through one.

01:08:41.041 --> 01:08:44.751
[SPEAKER_05]: But it's different when you get paid to solely do that.

01:08:45.212 --> 01:08:48.942
[SPEAKER_05]: And so when we did that, it was like, wow, they're getting so much non-gelus.

01:08:49.394 --> 01:09:01.125
[SPEAKER_05]: I need to start one of my own and everything like that and we start getting more clients and more and then it now it's the thing that like if someone gets a coach it's like on their list is like you need to start a podcast for marketing and things like that.

01:09:02.347 --> 01:09:18.422
[SPEAKER_05]: But it's not about just having a podcast it's about being on YouTube and then getting social media clips so you stay top of mind and everything and so that's when I found out there's a scope of work I enjoy doing and there's a scope of work that people need.

01:09:18.773 --> 01:09:19.754
[SPEAKER_05]: and they want.

01:09:21.036 --> 01:09:25.502
[SPEAKER_05]: Sometimes you got to get people in with the thing they want, just so you can show them the thing they need.

01:09:26.022 --> 01:09:35.935
[SPEAKER_05]: So sometimes it's like, our marketing is like attract your ideal clients through the power of video podcasts or like, what if you didn't have to go on the hunt for your next client?

01:09:35.955 --> 01:09:41.682
[SPEAKER_05]: It's like, when you show yourself on video, it becomes like an attraction to people because you're top of mind.

01:09:42.343 --> 01:09:44.646
[SPEAKER_05]: Just like commercials, McDonald's and stuff.

01:09:45.385 --> 01:09:52.254
[SPEAKER_05]: if you've had an experience, and then you see a commercial, now it's like, oh, I want to go back or maybe it's anti.

01:09:52.414 --> 01:10:07.173
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't want to go back, but it becomes that attraction model for people to think of you before you even run an ad or before you have to go out there and go down a huge call list and everything.

01:10:07.934 --> 01:10:09.957
[SPEAKER_05]: So I started relating through that.

01:10:10.978 --> 01:10:13.722
[SPEAKER_05]: And then that was the thing they want.

01:10:14.242 --> 01:10:19.449
[SPEAKER_05]: but the means and what they really needed was a marketing play for social media.

01:10:19.910 --> 01:10:21.291
[SPEAKER_05]: And this was the best way to get there.

01:10:21.852 --> 01:10:25.277
[SPEAKER_05]: That was my whole roundabout way of finding that.

01:10:25.337 --> 01:10:26.779
[SPEAKER_05]: And that's hard in business.

01:10:26.799 --> 01:10:28.501
[SPEAKER_05]: It's just finding out what people actually want.

01:10:28.621 --> 01:10:29.242
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

01:10:29.262 --> 01:10:32.927
[SPEAKER_05]: But that's a common reason why a lot of business is failed.

01:10:33.708 --> 01:10:34.889
[SPEAKER_05]: It's like, I was good at real estate.

01:10:35.090 --> 01:10:36.391
[SPEAKER_05]: Therefore, everyone should do it.

01:10:36.972 --> 01:10:37.072
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

01:10:37.092 --> 01:10:37.873
[SPEAKER_02]: That's well.

01:10:37.893 --> 01:10:38.174
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

01:10:38.274 --> 01:10:38.634
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.

01:10:39.035 --> 01:10:39.716
[SPEAKER_05]: Everyone is doing it.

01:10:42.039 --> 01:10:42.139
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

01:10:42.119 --> 01:10:44.025
[SPEAKER_05]: And I did learn that on real estate.

01:10:44.045 --> 01:10:49.120
[SPEAKER_05]: It's like a lot of people say they're in real estate, but it's various different things.

01:10:49.180 --> 01:10:50.665
[SPEAKER_05]: Like, doesn't mean you're an agent.

01:10:50.685 --> 01:10:53.233
[SPEAKER_05]: You could be just an investor or a rental property.

01:10:53.553 --> 01:10:54.456
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

01:10:54.476 --> 01:10:56.061
[SPEAKER_05]: But anyways.

01:10:56.598 --> 01:10:57.581
[SPEAKER_05]: Thank you for being here.

01:10:57.601 --> 01:10:58.944
[SPEAKER_05]: Thank you for being on the podcast.

01:10:59.827 --> 01:11:02.855
[SPEAKER_05]: There's a lot of other things like we could a hit on that I would love to.

01:11:03.697 --> 01:11:05.020
[SPEAKER_05]: Sounds like what might have to come back.

01:11:06.344 --> 01:11:13.122
[SPEAKER_05]: I think we should overwhelm my dad and everyone should go raid their channel and go make a bunch of orders.

01:11:13.102 --> 01:11:29.066
[SPEAKER_00]: And then I'll show us I'll have him pizza and being overwhelmed by orders and then Well, unfortunately right now the only thing on my website is some Christmas ornaments and hats Well, get some hats every order happy easy right now.

01:11:29.086 --> 01:11:29.287
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:11:29.307 --> 01:11:41.185
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's just I got to make more things to get on there So they're coming up with some ideas or things like that So I got several different styles of hats though, and I can do custom as well

01:11:41.637 --> 01:11:42.198
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, there we go.

01:11:42.238 --> 01:11:42.799
[SPEAKER_05]: Let's go over.

01:11:42.819 --> 01:11:48.531
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, let's see the story and see what happens and just expect it to be maybe a month behind.

01:11:50.034 --> 01:11:55.084
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm betting I'm going over.

01:11:57.007 --> 01:11:57.108
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

01:11:57.128 --> 01:11:58.330
[SPEAKER_05]: So awesome.

01:11:58.390 --> 01:11:59.873
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, thank you for being here without you.

01:12:00.094 --> 01:12:01.116
[SPEAKER_05]: We wouldn't be here at all.

01:12:01.136 --> 01:12:01.777
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

01:12:01.797 --> 01:12:01.857
[SPEAKER_05]: So.

01:12:01.837 --> 01:12:08.104
[SPEAKER_05]: You guys wouldn't even have this podcast if you like it, you know, hit subscribe, but I wouldn't we wouldn't have this podcast.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just think if I didn't like movies, when I was a kid, we probably wouldn't be here right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's true because all the way back to that.

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[SPEAKER_05]: All the way back to that.

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[SPEAKER_05]: To conclude that that thread to go through all of this was a perspective change that I had.

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[SPEAKER_05]: was, yeah, you could say we grew up poor, but actually refused to say that now, because we were just broke.

01:12:34.390 --> 01:12:35.412
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, we weren't poor.

01:12:35.612 --> 01:12:35.852
[SPEAKER_05]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And we were actually rich and we were rich in the things that actually matter in life.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And I caught that.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So good job.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You did it.

01:12:49.654 --> 01:12:57.843
[SPEAKER_05]: Thank you for putting that into me and showing me that family's more important than or family is the reason why you even work.

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[SPEAKER_05]: How do we have such great time with dad even though like half the time he was at work and then half the time you were asleep on the chair.

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[SPEAKER_05]: But we have good memories with you.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Like how on the head?

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[SPEAKER_05]: So you were 100% present in the

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[SPEAKER_05]: and you did whatever it took to let mom be home to and then you did whatever it took to get us to school and live our life and everything and so we're rich in faith now we're rich in family rich in fun like that's my personal core values faith family and fun like without those nothing really matters

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I would use to say you guys have everything you need and a whole lot of stuff you want.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think we were doing okay.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh and something that we have now that you guys would have appreciated.

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[SPEAKER_05]: when you were growing up and you wouldn't have had to swallow your spit, quick trip, quick trip, quick trip, quick trip, quick trip, quick trip, then it was always like going out to eat the first one, like the first one to say thank you after we'd all be in the car, would win, that could be a bit of a contest.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So you taught us gratitude, you know.

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[SPEAKER_05]: now I do that to my kids like just the spontaneous things of oh let's go to quick trip and get a drink even though probably shouldn't out like but you created an experience and that was even though yeah like that that adds up good anyway that adds up but you created that experience and then we had worlds of fun so you didn't take it one time so that's what matters in life because I'm telling you I'm 33 and I'm here remembering it right now probably 34 by the time

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[SPEAKER_05]: This airs.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So might be coming up.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Maybe right along all bad.

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[SPEAKER_05]: But the lesson of this whole podcast, thank you for listening to it is how to get rich with what actually matters.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's good.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So make sure and keep doing the reps, keep trying, keep going hard, keep praying, and keep on keeping on.