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[SPEAKER_01]: Highly recommend get a hold of virtue homes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How do you go to your website?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Virtue.homes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No.com.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Fizzers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: More than meets the calm.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what's up, everybody?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Welcome back to another episode of the more than meets the I podcast where we talk about what's behind a person, a practice, or a product.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm Jared Taylor, I've got my coffee, we're here at JT visuals and it's spelled without the eye because there's more than me CI.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I have some really amazing guests with me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is Brittany Taylor and this is Caleb Taylor.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Give us a bird's eye view of who you are and what you do in like one sentence.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm just going to say Caleb is my brother and Brittany is my sister and law.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So all right, Brittany, what's your name?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What's up?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm Brittany.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I am a realtor in Tennessee and I work with my husband Caleb to build our businesses That are pretty Expansive so I'm talking about that very expensive all right Caleb yeah to keep it in one sentence We are home services real estate So we just and we just want to honor God and everything that we do so Business focus faith focus and just trying to add value to people and

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's awesome.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so in the business and everything, what was it that made you first jump into it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was a police officer, had a family, I was also in military.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And...

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you know, with grandma and grandpa, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: We turn trailer trash and enjoy the cash.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I kind of grew up fixing homes and stuff like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, who doesn't want to flip a house?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Wait, so you did that a lot?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was every Saturday.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I remember I would help just occasionally with like raising money for camp or something.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But it was like torture for me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now you did it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I loved, I love spending time with them, the car rides and just, you know, everything they instilled in me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I love doing the work too, taking something ugly, make it look pretty nice, you know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: back then I was just like dreaming of not doing it while I was doing it and just to be honest I liked spending time with them but like that wasn't me now it probably more me than it was before but yeah and then but okay so we got to get into how you guys met because I've been doing that we're on this family journey you go back I had my oldest brother Jonathan on here and then we had

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[SPEAKER_02]: my grandma and grandpa, same one that he's referencing, and then we had my parents, and that one just came out today at the day of filming this one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so you probably haven't seen it unless you let's send it on the way or something.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now I saw the hook and I told them and I said he got me on the hook.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What was the other watch it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, they said something about an angel told us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you have never heard that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't know that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure what it is.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm found out how alive is it's actually real and not just an empty hook.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It actually goes somewhere.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nice.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So now I'm curious what it is and we'll have to watch the rest.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, cool.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so then we always grew up going to camp and it was a Christian camp and then you would go and Caleb did something very special at one of them and I believe this is the start to your story of meeting each other.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So take it away.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, somebody asked me,

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[SPEAKER_01]: there's something called men and ministry and we have to go and we speak a message in front of a panel of judges like four judges into this empty auditorium and they said hey I really want to do this so you do this with me no this is really my first response not really want to do that and then all of a sudden you know he's he's just saying man I really want to do this so you do this with me so

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[SPEAKER_01]: I do it and I end up winning that competition and the winner gets to go on stage or has to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: In front of the whole camp and speak that message.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Who was it that told you you should do it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Aaron will it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh nice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we did it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, I don't even think too many people did it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's not some big deal or a big competition next thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's, I think it's the next day, and they say, all right, you're speaking on stage at this time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I didn't have notes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't have anything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just went up there and just why it was good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I don't remember if I was there because I was a leader or was I like a senior.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, you were, I was a senior, so I just graduated high school.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And is that a of the angel and me field?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so she's from Oklahoma or Kansas City.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's right in the middle.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So her church was there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I had already seen her on stage playing fruit ninja.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I said, I'm not selling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was Micah Cox.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Really?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I said, you know, she's hot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and I didn't do that with everybody, but I did it with her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I remember the first time I saw her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now it's probably two days later, I'm speaking on stage and I'm just talking about the cool thing is I'm talking about career and how I wanted to be a police officer, but I just want to live my life for God and at that time, I more thought, well, if I want to live my life for God, I got to go into vocational

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was Galatians 220 that I spoke in a little bit of Matthew five, but anyway, Galatians 220 is I've been crucified with Christ.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's no longer I who lives, what is Christ who lives in me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So just my moment of surrender of I just want Jesus to live through me, you know, this life is not my own.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I just got out there and talked about that kind of stuff and that I'm willing to give up the police stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I've had been on ride along with high speed chases and just seen some real cool stuff and it was my dream.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm willing to give that up to whatever God has.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if that's vocational ministry, that's anything, I'll do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I just spoke that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then Zane Black was the speaker.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You remember, and I go back and sit in my chair.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I remember I was sitting pretty close to you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you just, you and a couple of others, hey, good job.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Zane got on stage and you said, Caleb, will you come back up here?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I got a few more questions for you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I remember what I remember your talk was about like giving up what was it you wanted to give up something in pursuit of ministry.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, ironically it was police work.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he had a dream.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Your life long dream was to be police officer or something.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then you were like,

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[SPEAKER_02]: influenced by the camp and feeling that God was saying, hey, actually, I want you to do this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then the ops happened, though, didn't it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, so, and man, the story just connects.

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[SPEAKER_01]: God just had a fingerprint.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it wasn't even influenced by the camp.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was before camp.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We stopped at Sean Patreys Lakehouse.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I got up early and did a little Bible study in the sunrise.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And anytime I'm in God's creation and nature and stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's just when I feel he speaks the most.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hmm.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just watching the sunrise over and I'm reading Galatians 220 and that that was the big I mean, God, I just want to give everything to you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: it was so authentic and I just remember being really impacted by that and very impressed like how is this guy almost my age filled with so much wisdom and at the time I was

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was dating somebody, but I knew I was ready to break up with him and when I saw Caleb on stage after the end of his sermon, I told my best friend who was sitting right next to me, I want to marry a guy like that and I broke up with my boyfriend that day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I was just so inspired by him and then we break for lunch after that at church camp and he gets stuck holding the door open and he always says, I can't just say I'm a door.

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[SPEAKER_01]: for your youth group and then everyone's coming through but I want to get lunch with their youth group.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, but now I'm like, I was just on stage.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't slam this door on somebody because they recognize me right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I held it for all the other youth groups and I got put at the very end of line.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You were with me though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Brittany tapped me on the shoulder.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, if he was standing there, then I meant it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we'll go back and watch him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Because that's a little vague to me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I talked about the shoulder.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I told him, like, hey, I thought you did a really great job up there, which is not something I would normally do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Go talk to somebody like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so that was our moment that we met.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then after church camp, I added him as a friend on Facebook.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we started messaging and skyping and stuff like that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Skybeam.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, man.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Does it make still have Skype?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Do we still say that?

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, not now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We have FaceTime.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to have been way easier.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, FaceTime.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Zoom became a rock climbing after that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I remember all the outdoor stuff, like everything was at night outside.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think you talked a Brittany at one point.

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[SPEAKER_02]: and I have a vague memory of that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We didn't talk at the camp besides that moment, but you were there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you remember me talking to her, it was that moment.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was her, probably, two other girls, maybe.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I really remember her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They both added him on Facebook too after that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's funny because you had public speaking.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's part of our niche is we work with public speakers podcasting podcasting is a form of public speaking and usually public speakers go hand in hand with that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's funny is like your public speaking your public speaking gig even though it was

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[SPEAKER_02]: not like some paid thing, and it was your first in front of this camp, that was a lot of people there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So thousands, wasn't it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe hit a thousand, but maybe.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe hit a thousand, it was definitely over 500, 600.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then you got the best payment.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But when was it when it got serious in a line and moving to Tennessee,

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was August 2015, I transferred to the University of Tennessee, and he sent me a message and was like, I didn't know you were going to UT, and then that's kind of what re-sparked things and started that relationship again kind of, and we started skyping again and then in October 2015, I invited him to come out and visit me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so he flew out there for a week, and that was our second time ever seeing each other in person.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I was a little nervous about

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[SPEAKER_00]: But when we each had their so well through phone calls, yeah, and it was just so much fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We just had a blast and I was pretty sad by the time I had to drop them off with the airport.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but you know, I almost lost her because it was June, July 3rd, 2013.

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[SPEAKER_01]: when we met, when I spoke at that camp and we met.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then, you know, the week following if we come Facebook, friends, sky, everything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was living with Grimm on Grandpa at that time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so, yeah, we were talking everything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we wanted to date.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You and I must say we were talking.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We were talking, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And months ago, by, and it was Josiah Cox.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, who told me,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Man, don't focus on this, just go pursue God.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's long-distance, she lives in Oklahoma.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It'll never work out, just pursue God.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I, you know, we weren't boy from girlfriend, but I kind of dumped her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he does.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He said, hey, we can still be friends, but just so you know, I'm not gonna pursue anything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we kind of stop talking to her through that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you, you know, I was bummed out by that for sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I started dating somebody else.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My senior year, I got engaged my freshman year of college.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't realize that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Actually, you know, I just forgot that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Somebody else.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, holy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I saw that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I thought, I remember talking to God, I was a Jaina during the time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and that was a big that was a big part of my life because i'm doing all this boring work but i'm thinking in my head and i'm praying alone doing it okay and there's just a lot of growth in that and i remember just seeing that on facebook and thinking uh you know i know that wasn't going to work out but i kind of hoped it would and i was a little defeated by that you know i was like

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I could feel something there and yeah, it's now it's a pipe dream over and to get a little dramatic what what did you do?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Did you influence a breakup there?

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, not at all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, he totally respected it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I got ahead of their plans and so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I did try to go visit once.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, a church got canceled.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was going to come to my church.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He came for an OKC Thunder basketball game, and he was going to come to my church next Sunday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But then we got snowed out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was kind of looking forward to seeing you if you came.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so God had other plans and at the time it probably seemed devastating with like when you're in it, yeah, but then there's that maybe you did have a little bit since you were hoping to see him, maybe that was a sign I still had like that interest like there was always something that was famous because I spoke on stage.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not quite, but then my Facebook name is Caleb W. Taylor.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I always called him Caleb W. Taylor when I talk to like my friends.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll see W. T. Grassman or something.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's my YouTube page, actually.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, stolen from me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, that's another story.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so then you guys got together.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You're wedding was, I think the absolute first time that I've videoed anything for any sort of compensation.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Really?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I mean, we did this and I talked about it on DataMoms, podcast episode where,

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[SPEAKER_02]: One of the first things I did with Dad was we started a, we actually started a side business.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What'd you call it?

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was like tailor-made creation.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was almost like exactly the name.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it had something to do with tailor-made video or something like that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think I remember that, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And we did a first free wedding video to make sure and build portfolio.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it was for Jeremiah and Michaela Crain.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Cool.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think so.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Or it was one of a long times ago, I guess.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you didn't have a longer prepare for filming our wedding either.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But so then what happened was after I did that with Dad, we were like, ah, never mind.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And we just didn't pick it up again.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So we technically didn't get paid, but I did something.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then it was later, I was doing so much for the church with video, and then I actually took a serious got a decent camera and started learning actual film stuff, instead of just pointing shooting, making stuff up.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was actually learning from YouTubers and other things and watching all the behind the scenes I could on films and movies.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then you guys were going to get married and it was the first time that I utilized that camera in a

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[SPEAKER_02]: somewhat paid away because you paid for the cost of a camera or something like I had a second camera.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it was like a knock-off GoPro.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it was a couple hundred bucks.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I just had you pay for that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I just did it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But then I made it like part of the portfolio everywhere later and got a couple more weddings after that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But then I was done with weddings.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it was also the first time as a colorist who enjoys tweaking colors and making it look cinematic.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That was the first time I got

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[SPEAKER_02]: foundational for colorists because two colors, two tones actually looks more cinematic than including like a lot.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And you don't do it like crazy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You still allow some of the natural colors to come through, but it was the first time I got something to look pretty good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, made that and sent it to you guys and yeah, we loved it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it was ahead of its time, too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you know, people took a course too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's what I did.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I went and signed up for Skillshare and then took a wedding course.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then I made a whole shot list of your wedding and the kind of shots I need to get and everything.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's probably the most organized I've ever been.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's awesome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I remember it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it was narrated by our vows.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We read our vows.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you had, you know, all the B role of us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And what I liked is you took, because I just hadn't seen this before at that time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, people probably do it like crazy, but to be kind of innovative in it early on, was you kind of, you let the photographer do this, his thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and you were recording what he was doing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So when he had us walk in a way from each other to take a picture, you got the video of that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that was always cool.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I started making that my thing too, which is like just piggyback on whenever the photographer's down because they're gonna like, they're candid at that point.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and if anything, you just say, I'm gonna pass through after every pose, or I'll just speak up after.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I started doing that method, and it was nice because I didn't have to play in a lot.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But then I started realizing, all the photographers are charging way more than I am as a videographer for weddings and stuff, and I just started to not like it, and so I started getting into other things.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But anyways, I just wanted to...

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[SPEAKER_02]: that was a pivotal point of what I was doing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Was that when was that 26, 27, 17?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he proposed to me on July 3rd and we got married on July 29th on his birthday.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Nice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I didn't wrap on him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And you were in and then you're you were taking

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[SPEAKER_02]: You were in the police force.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You were a police officer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was, I wasn't officer at that point, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's dirty academy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't remember if I was still in field training, FTO.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's what they call it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I was, I think I was out on the streets on my own at that point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And what were you doing?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You did like, fifties.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Why would you call it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We got married the summer before my senior year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then I graduated with my degree in Kinesiology.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Had read like a couple of weeks after I graduated.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so there's there's the fact like health consulting while she was in college.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's true nutrition consulting I remember first meeting you was like killed your day in a vegan Yeah, I was vegetarian for 10 years and then For it's probably around my junior year of college that I junior senior year that I'd be started eating meat again

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the Zollies spaghetti.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was the first meat sauce.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Why?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that was the first meat sauce of all things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't a nice steak dinner.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That was the first.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Fuzzleies.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a smellt-good or something.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You wanted it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I love the Zollies.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Dude, breads.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, if they do it right, then yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's actually pretty good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, anyway, it's a Zollies.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Fuzzleies, not a sponsor.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was a Zollies send us something.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Breadsticks.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We'll review it here on the podcast.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, so then we take a turn from that and you went into the military, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so while we were dating.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this was a hard part in our relationship.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, now we had visited each other in person several times where a long-distance relationship real-boyfriend, girlfriend and I chose to go in the military, which is weird because you guys know, I never watch any war movies with you guys.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You guys never expect it to be you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought we'd be in the group.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've still never seen Avengers, not that that's a war movie.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's just, I mean, it is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I never played Call of Duty.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You guys were so good at it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and I would be aiming perfectly a headshot or something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm pulling the trigger and trigger and did I shot you a hundred times and then you guys turn and look at me and hit me once and I'm dead.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I hate this game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sounds like it was Halo and it was the the mode where you have to get a headshot and well it's called it's every game, every show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I love driving the things in Halo.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well we're gonna digital life.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You were rocking the real world though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Wow, I don't know, but he likes realistic stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I've always loved realism, you know that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, in art.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, so you're in the military, are you comfortable of sharing after military or why you were out of it?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, I joined the military because I wanted to be a police officer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that was my fastest way in with Kansas City, because I wanted to be a Kansas City cop.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I told people, I think I might join the military and then I said it a few times and at that point I was tired of doing saying I was going to do something and not do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that one I followed through with.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And all of a sudden I signed up to be in the military and raised my hand and I'm going off to basic training and we're in a little bit of a relationship, you know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: can't talk to each other hardly at all for six months, except for occasional five-minute phone calls on a Sunday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think because of what I had already gone through with the engagement and things like that, I was terrified of getting hurt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So those feelings of me missing him, I channeled into like anger instead of sadness.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so we almost broke up when he was in basically training too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I told all of my buddies I think we're going to break out when we get out of here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But my mom told me, go to his military graduation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: CM, and if you still feel like you want to break up some after that, then you can.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But you at least need to go and see him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's what kept us together.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because of course, once we were actually together again, it was great.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then from there, how'd you get into entrepreneurship?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've always headed in me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You go back to the childhood.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sunday night church.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm drawing pictures and selling them for a quarter after.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's so true.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, dude.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, you had a whole line of people out of an event at our old church.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and they're all in both.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Just drawing them like, dude, that's all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I charge $1 for a caricature.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And everyone did it because I'm a eight-year-old kid.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I remember I had 14 clients that day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I drew their, I made 14 bucks and walked around with all those rich.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know, I always loved using whatever gifts, passions, talents, and it's funny.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I like preach now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Whatever your gift, passion, talent is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, whatever you do, Closions 317, do it in the way that represents Jesus.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I go back and then got just, had it in me from the beginning.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And of course, it's not just me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's had it in all of us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You were making videos.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How in the world do you get lightsabers?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: On Sony Vegas.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There wasn't YouTube tutorials of that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was a passion.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, they were actually, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'd learned it somewhere.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Dude, I think I downloaded it from line wire, which is risky, because there could be a virus or some inappropriate thing that comes with it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I installed it and it was called LS Maker.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then I think it was just from Google searches.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think there was a YouTube video.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I started running to YouTube videos later, and I just clicked in it, and it was like right click, and then left click, right click, left click, two clicks per frame, and we were shooting on like 30 frames a second.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So just for one second, it's 60 clicks, plus you didn't even pick the color.

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[SPEAKER_02]: and then all that patience, you play it back.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's one second.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's crazy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm too lazy to render.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a different thing and you find that mess up, you know?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it would like take a video file and put it into photos, and you would edit it like every single photo, and then it would compile it back into a video.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it was just, I learned I had the patience for it, but I like the end result.

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[SPEAKER_02]: as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: See, I've still never seen Star Wars except episode seven.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the one that we made.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Here's something else that's interesting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You just mentioned Google.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You introduced me to Google.

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[SPEAKER_01]: In 2005, because they made a Dodge Rumble B and that was dude.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's gross.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're obsessed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you're like, you know you could just Google Dodge Rumble B and see all the images of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was the first ever Google.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've talked about Dodge Rumble V images, and that's my first experience.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Google images start becoming a big deal.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's so funny.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know that is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now our five-year-old loves Dodge Rumble Vs2.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, really?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Did that only come in the yellow?

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[SPEAKER_02]: yellow and black.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And now we'll speak in of cars.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was so funny because I just said to someone on a podcast.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it was Grandma Grandpa and I said, man, how would never get into those self-driving cars?

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[SPEAKER_02]: But you know what's funny is Caleb actually has a Tesla and he did the self-driving mode.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I listened to that podcast and you're saying, I would never drive one of

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[SPEAKER_01]: listening to it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I actually got watching it, too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Shh.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, don't tell him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and it's just sitting, you know, I'm like, come on, I love these things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you kind of, you backtracked a little bit and said, human air is probably going to be higher than that technology air.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm still watching on my tent, but you still have to touch the wheel every now and then, you know?

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it drove us all the way here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Dude, I just had like dreams about that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it was weird when I would dream in it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Almost felt like lucid dreaming, but I was in a car.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm gonna be like, how's it driving itself?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Did you ever have dreams like that?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Did anybody ever on the internet have a dream about a self-driving car before they even started talking about self-driving cars?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Is it just me?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Let me know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I have weird dreams and sometimes I solve problems in dreams because I'm thinking of things over and over and over and over and we literally had solutions for this business based on a dream being complete missing piece.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I just wake up and go.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Wait, is that the answer?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I go and try it, and it works.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I can't think of like specific examples right now, but it's like, it happens several times.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's happened to me too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm talking about that lately, actually.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's crazy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, because sometimes all wake up at 3 a.m., think on something, pray on something, and I'll go back to sleep.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, I'm not trying to search for my solution in that or anything, but it's kind of cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes you get ideas.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I'm going to, I'll show you this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a little early.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So anyone listening to the podcast.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is something that you get to have exclusive reveal to, I guess.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Something I've been itching for is for non-profits to have a free podcast.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so I've been itching that for a long time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I've been learning this business and like Alex Ramosi, how you offer things and what you do.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then

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[SPEAKER_02]: Robert Calesaki or how do you say anything?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Keywater Cales?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Calabung you do.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Rich Dad Poor Dad guy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Which is the concept is really good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Instead of saying I can't start saying how can I.

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[SPEAKER_02]: and you can figure out how to do things, like, I can't fly.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, don't say I can't say how can I?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I can fly if I build a machine that helps me fly.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, like, and there's always a way.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I feel like that's entrepreneurship.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Is you're figuring it out as you go and trying to connect things that are dreams.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And one of my dreams is to be able to help not profits have a really good awareness

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[SPEAKER_02]: and not have to pay for it and I'm just going to say all I'll say is we're working on it and we're getting really close.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Cool.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So close.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I know the how it's just like finding the right people and the implementation of the how.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So definitely stick around with us and

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[SPEAKER_02]: already though like there is another level of that that is already ready so if there's a nonprofit out there that's looking to do a podcast and an awareness channel makes a difference especially if you're faith based on profit then let us know because I could have a talk with you and and show you how it could potentially become for for you to not be at an extra cost because we're in it our vision is to see

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[SPEAKER_02]: individuals have more fulfilling lives based on the brands we work with.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So when we work with brands, we got to re-establish their brand and set it up and then lead them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: to produce the kind of content that's good for social media and not like the brain raw stuff.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, we don't market for sales, we market for life change.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's the long plan.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Non-profits can be the sweet spot.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We still do it for businesses because businesses should solve a problem, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's something that I've seen really big in you guys.

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[SPEAKER_02]: with with your business.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Surinate it to God asking God first what you should do.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And really implementing that, they truly care for people.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think that's a difference.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You'll see in businesses.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So if you are in the Tennessee area, highly recommend get ahold of virtue homes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: How do you go to your website?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep, virtue.homes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No.com.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because there's more than meets the calm.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Virtue.homes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That trick's so many people on email.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know one day it won't, but it's like at Virtue.homes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not Virtue.homes.com.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Can you do a double sub to me?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Because I'm like, if you got home, oh, homes.com would be hard to own.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That would be hard on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There is already.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But eventually you could pay a billion dollars just to own it, just for those people to, if they accidentally type a wrong email, couldn't still get through.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But anyways, that's awesome, and I think that's a missing piece, and a lot of businesses, and a lot of marketing too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot of bad marketing tactics out there, and some of it's just showing yourself creating an awareness channel.

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[SPEAKER_02]: and stay in top of mind and then genuinely telling people and showing them how your business can help them and help give them more fulfilling lives, you know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So you guys have been on that journey, so can you tell me about that a little bit?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think everything we're building and working on is from paint that we've experienced ourselves.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the first iteration of virtue homes has been house flipping.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we had flipped houses, we flipped several houses through the years, and contractors have been one of our biggest paint points.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're really hard to come by.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're in it for themselves often, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's some great ones out there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's bad ones out there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's been one of the most difficult things we've faced.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And as we start giving the business to God, asking him for ideas, I'm tired of Caleb Taylor's ideas, because they don't always pay an out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I just want to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: God's ideas are bigger.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're better anyway, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so just praying into that and seeing what he brings and leads and we started building a home service company.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's still pretty fresh where it did its first year this year.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So home flipping and now home service, which is you help the people with when things fail through homes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that bill organically, we want better contractors to help us flip.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we're starting to bring in our own contractors to flip.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then, I just see, I mean, we're in it for the value that is home service, the value that is real estate, but I was, it was a pre foreclosure, we do a lot of pre foreclosures.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Here's where I'll take it here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I kept saying, I'm a Christian, I should put God in my business, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I want God at the center of my business.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's what we all say, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What's that look like?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Most people just say, I'll play Christian music on the radio.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, that's how I put God in my business.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you'll just say the words.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I put God in my business.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm under the impression that God doesn't want to just be the center of your business.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He wants to be fully immersed in every aspect of your business.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so going with that,

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[SPEAKER_01]: We start realizing, we like to say, hey, people over profits, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: We want to carry people over who doesn't say that's cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it is because that's what your core values.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sure, yes, absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And a lot of virtue homes came from, I started working for a, you know, we were doing house flips just on our own, and then I started working for our company and did their acquisitions.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and they would make me, you know, I had to go with their algorithm, their system, everything on what I need to offer these people, and they're offering trash, absolute trash, offers, and a trash should what sense?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like terrible low, your house is worth way more than what they're offering you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's all tactic, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we want strategy, we want to be good at what we do, we want to, you know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But this is just insulting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they were kind of making me do that with people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then there are also wholesalers, which to be to speed up what a wholesaler is, is they're not an end buyer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They get a contract on your house and then they'll sell it to an investor for a finder fee, 20,000, 30,000.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's like paper hands.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're just, they don't even really see it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They just pass it along.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But most often you, the homeowner that's selling it, you don't know that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: like they disclose it, but they disclose it very sneaky.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and so when I started working for them, I said, I don't want a wholesaler.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You guys in the end buyer and they said, yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So one of my first acquisitions was, you know, this very nice old lady.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm building a rapport with, I give her a offer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's good with this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We have the contracts and everything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And she even gets a down payment on her new property.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's been an end to an apartment complex.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's getting older.

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[SPEAKER_01]: she's expecting to sell her house on this day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It gets to that day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they say, we couldn't find an investor to take this property, Caleb Gaulher, and cut the deal off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I said, I'm not doing that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I told her this whole time we're the end buyer, because you guys told me we're the end buyer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I said, I'm not doing that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, well, you're not getting paid then.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I didn't make a dime from that company.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was mad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wasted my time that I spent all that time with them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But the cool thing is, God takes a bad thing and makes it good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's where virtue homes was birth.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I said, I'm tired of seeing people get treated so poorly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We want to treat them better.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so we bailed virtue homes, because I'm like, I can offer more for your house than they're offering.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And there's a good money in the deal for us, you know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I start saying, we want to treat people better.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we start building virtue homes and everything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And now we're two years down the line and we just feel God in the Holy Spirit just gets a hold of our lives.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You say, you want to treat people better.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, what people are you treating better?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You buy the house on auction, you don't deal with people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: you and your contractors, bicker and fight, you're not pouring into them at all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then when you sell it, you sell it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we're not there landlords.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we'd like to get out because you can't, you don't want them to think you're there landlords.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, we obviously want to create a great product for them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's kind of just transactional.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so everything was transactional.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and it it was a moment where I'm driving by this house that I'm free for closure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just make sure it's not burned to the ground, you know, before we bid on it because it's sight unseen in the guy standing in the front yard and I'll wrap around.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, you know, I'm going to go back and talk to him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I go in and I talk to him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We get a deal on paper, but I was in the living room with him, talking with him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the cool thing is,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I had the opportunity to share my faith.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now we're not going in there with gospel tracks and apparently the gospel on them, but it just opens the door.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're in a really tough, tough place.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And here's what I can offer you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The problem is I knew I could offer more.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just didn't have the resources to offer more because I had to make a good deal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's where

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[SPEAKER_01]: We decided we want to be able to offer them what's good for them, that what's good for us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because I can only offer them this amount for his house so that we can make money when we flip it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I know he can get more on the market if he just puts a roof on his house in a new HVAC.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we start trying to build more offers, and this is what virtue homes is growing into, is not only can we buy your house for cash, but Brittany is a realtor.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So now we have realtor options, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: She could have just put it straight on the market for you and gotten 175 and 720 from us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But we still buy a cash because some people need that, they need to get out quick.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you have real-der service by sale, all that stuff, most people know what that is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But now we have home services where we can fix your home to, and you're going to have trusted people come in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's all under one roof.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So if it's like, oh man, if you only put a roof on this, it would only cost us much and you would get that's much more value.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, by the way, we could do that for you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because they don't have the money to pay for the new

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we're investors.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're real estate investors.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we can do that for you as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll pay that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to get our money back on that plus a return.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's going to have the listing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you would like, and we have the contractor's going to do it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Put up a roof in an investment as an investment, basically.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then like, what's fair?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like 20%.

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[SPEAKER_02]: about that or like whatever 30% profit or whatever it needs to be and then they get that based on the sale yeah and we get our money back at closing yeah okay yeah so that you created like a win-win yeah that's the goal of the risk yeah yeah do that is an art when you can take risk out of it that that's crazy yeah and you want you want to know it's cool about

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[SPEAKER_01]: all we're trying to do is give a better value to that person because our heart breaks for him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But look what we just got.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We just got our investment team, profit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We just got a real-a-der commission and we just got our home services, cash for their work.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So now all of ours is eight well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They ate better, you know, they, so it's just really cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You just bring value to people and everyone does better.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now where we're working, we're trying to build this stuff out more, we're trying to build it wide.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And now it comes to we're trying to build it into a network to offer it beyond Tennessee.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We can't just sit.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It would be one place.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think I can just sit.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's next.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Ah, you heard it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I've got a document.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Dude, that's awesome.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then now, you guys have stepped into creating your own content.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Mm.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, sorry about content a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Because a lot of people listening are probably itch into create better content.

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[SPEAKER_02]: or it's mom.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's very important.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I can just tell that's where we're headed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's so important.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you we just feel like we're supposed to be seeable and findable, we want to be a light.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So what better way to do that than to be where everybody is, which is online.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What you didn't feel that way before, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: No.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I was afraid to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I'm more

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wasn't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He made me afraid.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was like my dream for so long was to start a YouTube channel.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When I was in college, I spent like $900 on a camera and I started filming.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What camera?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Sony.

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[SPEAKER_00]: something that I followed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was like, this is the camera I use.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you want to do it too, this is what you should get.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I spent $900 on the camera.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I started filming.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I recently looked back at the stuff that I filmed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was actually pretty proud of it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was pretty good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I sat down to edit my first video and he laughed at me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so that, you know, I do that reaction

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[SPEAKER_00]: But and he always says like if you were afraid of me laughing at you then how are you going to put it out there for all these other people to see but true that kind of made me step back and I don't know I just I never started it and then he kind of made me a little afraid of putting myself out there because I knew he was and he just didn't like sharing a lot of personal details about themselves yeah that's that's so that that influenced your fear but it was you deciding to make that a fear though if you think yeah

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so, in what actually helped, should he have done that maybe not?

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[SPEAKER_02]: But it also created something that there's a character break through now for you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: For sure, I think that we both went through a lot between then and now that it's been 10 years and God did so much in us.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like now we are actually ready to be out there in front of people or as before, I don't think we were.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's definitely not for everyone.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's like, as much as I would love it to be.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, everybody should do a podcast.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I could probably convince you, but it's not about that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And if it's not the right fit and it's not the right fit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I've been feeling that itch for years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, especially in my time with God and things like that, like, you've got to be out there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And maybe one day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I don't want that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know where we come from.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We were.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We grew up on stages singing and making videos and seeing a calagon dees, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I don't know why, I don't know if is my time in the military, kind of blend behind scenes, you get less trouble, things like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Or as a cop, I don't want to be out there because it's a dangerous profession.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to put myself in my family out there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know, I put it off for years

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[SPEAKER_01]: content for years and we're just stepping out and we feel like we need the boldness to actually get out there because how are we going to bring value to people if people can't even see us then even know who we are so like she said be seeable be findable so what you're doing actually is

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[SPEAKER_02]: whether you want to call it this or not, you're creating an attraction channel.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's a client attraction that you're building.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And even with personal brand, because if you do it in a way that's like, oh, it's our family, it's this, it's that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All the things that make you, you, is personal brand.

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[SPEAKER_02]: and you are the niche at that point.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Silly is that sounds like some people.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like that's been like this new revolution is like, you are the niche and then now it's to a point where some people are trying to be like, you are the niche is so stupid and it's like, guys, it's still true.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like just how you use it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So,

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[SPEAKER_02]: that is something and people can follow you and have better lives potentially through it through the influence because we need more positive influence and there's a lot of bad out there and if all the good people are just saying all social media is bad we're not going to do it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Then it is gonna be only bad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, we feel that tug on the personal brand side.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're so passionate about marriage and Family parenting parenting which I think all comes back to that marriage relationship and so That's a big way we want to use our personal brand to be a light to people as to just encourage and inspire people To be intentional and to do their daily lives better and to really show up for their family Yeah big time

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's cool.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You create such a value like that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Even if you're not intending to do it, it will happen if you have a way to make it happen.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If you have a link in your bio of like, oh, and hey, by the way, I'm a real turntainacy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If you're here, give me a call.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So they're landed on your channel because of the marriage or the fun or the football video that got over a million views.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Even like things like that, people are landed on your channel, but then they go, oh, he's in Tennessee, so am I.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it can actually become a good business lead for him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because I struggled with that a little bit at first because I started pushing out a little bit of realtor stuff and then I realized, that's not what I want to be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When people come to my page, I don't just want to be a realtor.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to be me and everything I'm passionate about

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think that's a big thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I go to so many websites of companies or, you know, I just find interest in them and I scroll through and I just want to see them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to see who's behind this in it's never there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so to start putting yourself out there, I think people want to know it's behind the product.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Huh, that's actually, I could see that becoming a bigger thing with AI.

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[SPEAKER_02]: because now everyone, especially marketing, like everyone can get their hands on this tool that's gonna make something awesome, and then it's gonna look good, and everything's gonna look the same now, because everything's gonna be good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's kinda like email, email, marketing looked good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was like graphic designers would do a fantastic job, but then everyone looks good, and everyone starts ignoring those emails.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so then if you do ugly emails,

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[SPEAKER_02]: meaning there's no design to it and it's just straight up and it looks like you actually wrote to them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Or you actually write to them and it's like not even like super formal or anything.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just like one paragraph.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Short and sweet.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's highly.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's way more effective than if you were to send out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Just

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[SPEAKER_02]: flashing JIFs or whatever, I'm team JIF, so I think if, but JIF is peanut butter, that the mom should hear.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's what the J. Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But anyways, it's not giraffes, it's giraffes, autonomally.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Those are always fighting words, but it's a fun thing to fight over.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, yeah, I think the same thing

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to have two over the top, two well-designed, two well-animated, two well-worded things that people are going to be stuck wondering what's it freaking about.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because AI builds with full AI.

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[SPEAKER_02]: A lot more good marketing out there nowadays, which means once everything's good marketing and becomes bad, because it doesn't stand out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: and it's like good preference of good design but it's not good marketing because it's not standing out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So you have to stand out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's why even podcasts.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So now doing podcasts can be a solution for that because it's more like that backyard conversation.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If you sound scripted on a podcast,

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not going to do as good as if you just have a casual conversation when they're sitting on a couch and it is just scripted and it's an ad.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Do so cheesy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Especially when it's an ad and you go to it and then they're profiles blank.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then they already give you a call.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This has happened to me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They already gave me a call.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't even submit the form.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I just started filling it out and then went never mind and he raced it all.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't hit submit but they already called me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: because they have crazy tactics where they can be so quick in their system, which is impressive, but at the same time, that's not good for the end user.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Me, like, dude, I was just kind of looking like, I'm not dealing with 10,000 leads a month, kind of scenarios, like who they're trying to target.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's not even good for them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So now red flags, it should be a red flag that if you don't have social profiles that are up to date,

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[SPEAKER_02]: you might not be a good candidate for people to actually trust.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, and then it's even better if you layer that on with personal brand.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, personal content showing yourself, which is good for a podcast too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You need video podcasts now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: and it way better.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Staying top of minds, like, oh, you're the guy that talked about skydiving and you didn't have any fear.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That was me actually.

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[SPEAKER_02]: For some reason I didn't have any fear.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I've always wanted to do that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll do it with you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We got it recorded.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like I have more fear now because I've kicked.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I didn't think of that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was like, well, you should.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, yeah, what do you mean?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I mean, I crossed my mind, but I should.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I guess I crossed your mind when you're flying out of the flight.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, it crossed my mind, but it's like, we already decided we're going to do this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So why don't you do it now, Rose?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, nice.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then like, it was to the point, I wasn't just faking it time, make it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was like, I could show my hand.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I wasn't shaken.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I was like, all right, sweet, and it was literally, oh, we can go back to what I said to you one time is like nurse is the same energy as excitement.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So if you change that and channel it, you can call it excitement and you hardly ever.

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[SPEAKER_02]: need to even agree your nervous like even sports players you go and you watch their interviews were you nervous they'll never say if they're trained right they'll never say I was nervous yeah they'll say oh yeah I was just so excited to do this and

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they're good at that because Josh said he throws up before every game and daring the game and really yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, but you know, you can compare my crazy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, I guess I guess like those examples are a little different, but still if someone came up to him were you nervous?

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, I just, I just normally throw up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, yes, yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, yep.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, but then I guess I just learned this right before

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was 2023, the last time we filmed with you for Virtue Homes, it was right before we were about to, you know, it's just me and front of the camera, saying stuff for our business and I was so nervous and you said that and it has stuck with me to this day and so every time I start feeling nervous about something, I tell my brain that I'm just excited and it totally changes it for me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's cool actually works with people, some people, because some people can't do it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And hopefully, they can just keep trying, because it's all about the brain waves of the area of least resistance is where your brain's going to think them out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So if you think negative all the time, it's so easy to think negative.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And specifically, they say you're 33% dumber with a negative attitude.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's cool.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So are you 33% smarter if you have a positive?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, something else he likes to talk about is that apparently statistically we only use five percent of our brain and he was so offended when he learned that and so he's like how can I use more of my brain?

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[SPEAKER_00]: God gave me all of this brain and so yeah, I definitely would say just how she use more of your brain power

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, dude, that is actually a good question.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's mind-boggling.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it kind of makes me mad and offended.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's almost like, and I think I can't really prove any of these series because there's smarter people who've done tests and see actual brain activity.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But it's like, I would think that some of it's reserved and there's reasons for it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: and it's not just a dormant in there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think there's probably reasons we just don't understand or can't test.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But there's so much we can tap into.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, if we try and not settle.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's just certain areas.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is for dreaming.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is for, this is for a regular, this is for a fighter flight or when you when you see someone from the stage.

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[SPEAKER_02]: playing fruit ninja, yeah, yeah, you're a big middle.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's actually the same thing with marketing and everything.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Is anytime you can trigger that, the response is going to be better.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So when you create content around, sometimes it's even just the freezing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It can trigger certain things.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So in this situation, I was about to jump off the cliff and dot, you know, that could trigger someone's

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[SPEAKER_02]: There is a lot of psychology, but the danger is, like, if you truly are a Christ-centered company or integrity matters to you, or both, hopefully both, then you got to be careful of how you do those things.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I know I've probably crossed lines a little bit, but you know, human, but we're not intentionally trying to fool someone or trick someone.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Even when we come with thumbnail titles and stuff, we're trying to, we're asking Jim and I were scanning the

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[SPEAKER_02]: transcript with AI to make sure, hey, does this actually go through?

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[SPEAKER_02]: If we say this, is this just empty clickbait?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think clickbait's wrong.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's part of it's fishing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's where bait comes from.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's catching a fish wrong with bait.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like that's what you do it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So if you do that, but there's actually a worm or like something there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: then, and it leads someone to a better path in their life, then it's good, if it's actually fulfilling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so you guys focus on having the good bait.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You sound the bait, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The JT Vision.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, we'll have someone here on the podcast and we'll know kind of generally what they want to talk about, but then based on what they actually say, we look for the bait within that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, to set that up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I like what you're doing because

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, we're leaning into making content.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're so far away from you, too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wish we were closer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And as hard, it's busy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you're trying to run this company and make content.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And be seeable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And be findable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it is cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm kind of jealous.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know we get to do this right here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I kind of wish we could come in more.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and let the fly out here more or something.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It could happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He wants to get his own plane one day.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There you go.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just be fun to fly.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I just want a portal.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's all good stuff, man.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's cool.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you for being here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I know that you guys have had some other areas of

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[SPEAKER_02]: Specialties and other stories and in many other things so I want people to be able to go and find you So they can follow you and stay in touch.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So how would they do that?

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[SPEAKER_02]: What what's the recommended social channel Where they should follow you?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you got your YouTube going we got YouTube going recently?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and we're doing it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're consistent with it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're uploading Caleb and Brittany Taylor on YouTube

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[SPEAKER_01]: So can we collab on this video?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so we're collabing on our wedding video.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think I've posted that as JT visuals.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Or it's unlisted because I don't want to attract people of like seeing a cool wedding video even one on wedding.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So that one I'm a little different on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But seeing you do a great job of staying focused in one line, you make podcasts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So other people don't have to figure out how to make a podcast.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a train.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So there's a lot of things attached to it, and we have tracks and gods laying the tracks and we're just supposed to go, and if someone wants to hop on board the train until a new stop or something like it's a perfect analogy, because they can get on and then hop off.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then we just help them get from point A to point B really fast, but we're still going.

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[SPEAKER_02]: and we're going to add a lot more trains and they all have to do something with each other.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So we can keep our messaging confined to feel like we only do podcasts or this or that or like but really what we're in it for is to see brands rediscover their value which ultimately leads individuals to have more fulfilling lives.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's the whole track we want to

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[SPEAKER_02]: and we have the perfect channel for that, and so our model is bigger than just podcast, but our method is podcast right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So the model could, the model won't change, but the method could change, you know?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, and so, and like I said, it's hard to make content, and it's time consuming so to be able to come in here, record a podcast, and then the clips,

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[SPEAKER_01]: gone forever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they just add a professionalism.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess credibility.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's what I love about it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And speaking of serving well, too, it's like, man, if we're getting paid to do this and we're like a wood, I think we're towards a higher end of things.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're not cheap.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so I want to treat it that way.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And we do audits.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And we

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[SPEAKER_02]: have a brand promise that you will never run out of content.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So long as you show up, that's good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So if you show up and keep doing the thing and not opting out of what we recommend, then we can promise you will never run out of content because we're auditing it all the time every week.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And making sure that, oh, if you're about to run out, it's red alert, we got to do something.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And we got to figure out why, and was it are doing or not?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then it just won't happen.

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[SPEAKER_02]: As long as you're filming monthly, you'll just never run out of content.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then if you need more flexible times, we can stretch it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We have ways and methods to stretch it a little longer.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It just goes a little thin.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, let's work on this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But you never run out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's the danger of starting content is stopping.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Stop it quickly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We've seen that for sure, with even just YouTube getting started, you go, you're consistent, but then as soon as you drop off, it really changes how successful things are going.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I just feel like for businesses, it's really important, especially for businesses, to be successful, to be findable, all of that you've got to be online.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so let me keep telling you where we can find, you can find us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're on TikTok, Brittany, Caleb Taylor, YouTube, Caleb and Brittany Taylor, when you fix that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's Graham Facebook, all those things, but on YouTube, we also have virtue kids.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So parents, if you're not saying like me, you know, your kids are watching YouTube all the time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're like, what in the world are they watching?

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're trying to just let our kids go out and they'd love creation and let's go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and they all wrap it into, this is God's creation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Look at this creditor we found, this is God's creation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there, and I want to say that because in the Kansas City area, especially contractors, you know, if you're a professional contractor who takes their work serious, we are going to be having leads in the area, really, really good quality leads.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we're building a network of just good people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We only want the good people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so go to virtue.home slash network and you could you just get on a waiting list no obligation at all right you're not signing in any contract and trust me you'll want you'll want to see it Yeah, be a part of awesome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think something huge.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's awesome.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's awesome Yeah, all right well man

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[SPEAKER_02]: We need to do this again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I know we did.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It goes too short, and then it's like, oh, we're over time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that was fast and things like that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And you want to keep going into it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I love this format.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think you guys for being here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you for trying it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So with all that being said, I want to make sure that you guys continue to keep doing the reps. Keep putting God first and everything you do and remember to keep on keeping on.