What Actually Happens in Kansas City During the World Cup?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You guys today's episode is one that is so necessary, but I want to just full warning.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Fewer discretion is advised on this episode.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're gonna be talking through human trafficking and everything that comes with that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you've got little ears next to you, this might be an episode you want to preview on your own first with that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's go to the episode.

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[SPEAKER_02]: they're thinking probably at least a thousand women brought in during the World Cup 2B traffic.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was in federal law enforcement for 21 years.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was a senior probation officer for the Western District of Missouri and God's Honor Rescue Mission, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm running special ops so imagine the same person who is raping you is also saying let's go to McDonald's and sometimes there's this thing where you choose the chains of familiar instead of future joy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, welcome to Pact with Purpose Care Packaging Bound Podcast.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Care Package inbound exists to deliver hope.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And listening to this podcast, do you get to be part of that hope?

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[SPEAKER_01]: My name is Chris Junggal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm joined by Jessica Silvey.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Today's conversation you guys is a really important one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're talking about the heartbreaking connection between foster care and the realities of human trafficking around the world, but really bringing it home here to Kansas City.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And with things like the FIFA World Cup coming up, this is a reality that is just exponentially growing and can be something that we really need to talk about right here right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're also going to be talking about hope that we're going to be talking about people that are sitting in impossible situations and refusing to look away.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And one of those people and one of those organizations is Stephanie Wiley.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's the executive director of RPOR Resolent List Pursuit Outreach and Recovery.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And there an organization that really is on the front lines of human trafficking every single day hearing Kansas City.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So Stephanie, thank you so much for being here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you for having me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm excited.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I am too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know that this is a heavy topic, but it is one that I think we can't shy away from.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We need to sometimes sit in the uncomfortable and talk through it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But before we get into that, tell us a little bit about you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know you've got a background in law enforcement and a vast resume.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's, I don't know which is more daunting.

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[SPEAKER_02]: My resume or the topic, I was in federal law enforcement for 21 years.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was a senior probation officer for the Western District of Missouri.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was a level three contracting officer and I actually contracted for treatment services for sex offenders, substance use disorder, and mental health.

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[SPEAKER_02]: could have fully stayed in other, you know, seven years in my career, but God had other plans, and I ended up here as executive director.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you had shared actually a while ago we had talked through this and I just think it's a really cool moment of You had actually put in if I'm remembering this right you had put in your am going to retire date and you had nothing lined up at the time is that event

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's correct.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, I started reading a book by Joyce Myers called Do it a phrase.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And in June of 21, the Lord was like, you, you're going to be running RPR and I was like, no, I'm doing really well where I'm at.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I've still got time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He was like, no, you, you need to do it all Monday.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so I did, I went in and turned in my retirement paperwork for the end of the year, and then I just waited because you can't push God, you can't move him nor do you want to, it's part of the faith walk.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so I waited, and in the meantime he was like, oh, by the way, you also need to put your kiddo in private school, and I'm like, but she just told me to retire.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, but you do it afraid, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so, I waited October rolled around, and I'm like, I'm retiring in two months, I'm gonna substitute teach.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Nothing against substitute teaching, but I'm not really a kid person.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Love my own.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, it was October, the end of October, when RPO were reached out, and they were like,

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[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, would you be interested?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm so glad you called.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I'm retiring in four weeks.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, it was a total of faith walk.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Totally.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I love that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love how God works and you could just step out there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, similar to what you talked about on this too, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, I don't think I'm qualified to do this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you're just like, God's like, nope, you're going to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And well, it's like qualifications is one thing you're overqualified, I think, in some ways.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think a lot of times we just don't see how a gap can be bridged.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And God's just like, no, I told you to walk, like, you need to have faith in me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he does that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He pulls us out of our comfort zones, I think, constantly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And one of the things I talk to my college kids about is I'm like, hey, do you guys know the verse in the Bible where it says that God will never put anything more on your plate than, you know, that you can handle and they'll go, yeah, yeah, I'm like, it's not the Bible.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Actually, he actually goes and does that on a regular basis where he will give you more than you can handle so that you can lean on him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's so important to make sure that you are leaning into him instead of freaking out in your own analysis, which I do want a regular basis, and then I go, I'm sorry, and I come back.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so I tell people all the time like my past, my resume is not what qualifies me for this job, what qualifies me is that I love me some Jesus.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm obedient.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And when I'm not, I know he's going to, you know, get God's going to get with me pretty quick.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm okay with that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But also, I believe that every woman who walks through doors is truly a daughter of the king.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And God's

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's, I mean, everyone is qualified to do something, but you have to get outside your comfort zone.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You have to do it if right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think one of the things to just you talking about like every single one of those women is a daughter of the king.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When I went to RPR, the building itself, like we've gone, I went twice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The first time, like you guys are on Rainbow Boulevard.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's happening.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's not Rainbow Boulevard, sorry.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's happening.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Which is like not the safest part of Kansas City.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's just say that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And for some reason, once we walked in the door, it was just like this feeling of safety.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's not something that you could get anywhere else.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I could walk through and you're just kind of like, no, this place is protected.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you can feel God's hand on that ministry.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think it's so beautiful.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to jump into what RPOR actually does, but maybe for audience before we jump there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you've been walking us through, like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: What is human trafficking?

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[SPEAKER_01]: For those who may not be super familiar with it, they might have heard of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have plenty of people in my life that I've talked through human trafficking.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We've raised donations and funds through my business to actually give to fight human trafficking.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I've had people come up and say, hey, this is great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But like, is this even an issue?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Isn't this like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, all of the movies that we see of overseas, and somebody gets kidnapped and else on their thrown into human trafficking, and this is something that doesn't happen here, but that's not really the reality.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So do you mind just kind of talking through that a little bit?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so human trafficking essentially is when you have someone who's using coercion to get someone else to do something.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it can be sexual exploitation, it can be domestic,

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[SPEAKER_02]: sweat shop, it can be domestic where you're forcing someone to clean your house every day.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But there's always this feeling of you owe me and you're trying to pay off a debt.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Manipulators use a lot of different ways to manipulate vulnerable victims into believing that they don't have a choice.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, human trafficking is it can be essentially three different ways, but it's all about coercion and control.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, who would you say are the most vulnerable to human

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[SPEAKER_02]: honestly foster kids because everything that put them into foster care to begin with makes them a vulnerable victim.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They come from a rough family.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe they were sexually abused in the foster home.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe they were physically abused in the foster home.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe it was just unstable in some way, but just the reasons that put them into foster care that make them an easy target for

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then we expedite that why the amount of teens that we have currently in foster care that don't have any stable home environment because they're moving so often and often times get put into group homes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's really a lot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you and I talked one time about Lake.

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[SPEAKER_00]: kind of how that happens with how they start contacting them and and how the John's kind of start that relationship and I remember being very shocked just being like oh my gosh how do I protect my own children from this you know because they're sneaky you know I think that we tend to dumb down people that we think

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[SPEAKER_00]: are in crime, unfortunately, like, well, we'll see like a John and we have this like picture in the movies of what that person would be like, but these, they're highly intelligent and individuals that are out doing the things that they're doing and it can be pretty scary.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean the the vulnerability like we're talking about like you were saying something that comes to mind is we think that it's this huge Epic in your face obvious kind of evil.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but it's not it's how the enemy works.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like these tiny little things It's a quick message on Instagram Facebook any socials or text message or just a Compliment it's it starts really small and it seems really innocent

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that kind of leads me to what are some of the things that the traffickers are looking for?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like what are they actually looking for in that vulnerability who's somebody that they would target?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so back in the day, it used to be called at the free candy van, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, yes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they're going to be like, no windows gone or those days.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's because, yes, it's not that obvious, kids overshare on social media, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: So any perpetrator can get on Facebook and Instagram and see that someone is insecure that they just had a fight with their girlfriends if they just had a fight with their parents, that they're wanting to run away.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so just to pop in and just say, hey,

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[SPEAKER_02]: I see you, right, that, I mean, how many words is that and all the sudden it's like, oh, someone's noticing me, yeah, I would never treat you that way.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I will get you some new shoes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What do you need because they're already vulnerable and hurting, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it doesn't take much.

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[SPEAKER_02]: because they're so hungry for any kind of attention and something different than what they currently have because they're not happy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So you've got this perpetrator coming in and say, what do you need?

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I'll help you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's talk through this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If they're already looking to run away, then all of a sudden they have a safe space to run to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Correct.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's scary.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My daughter's 11 and, uh,

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[SPEAKER_00]: just getting into those parts in her life.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like she's not allowed to have social media because I'm paranoid.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, like I know a lot of her friends that I could feel like would be targeted in that way just because of oversharing, not that they have bad lives, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: But because teenagers are full of angst, you know, I remember what I was like when I was a teenager.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I really good like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And they're just wanting independence, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, to have independence, you have to have your own money.

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[SPEAKER_02]: students.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I remember my daughter telling me that a friend of hers would have pictures taken ever in lingerie.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And she would get to keep the lingerie.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And my daughter was like, it seems like such a good deal.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And she gets money for referring people to this guy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, mm, she's called a bottom.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She goes out and recruits.

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[SPEAKER_02]: other girls who want money, and I'm like you don't want any part of that, but I'm so thankful that my daughter called and asked me, and this was even before I was with RPOR, but it is, it's the money, and someone buying you nice things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and that's really that's a connection in foster care.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's a connection no matter where you are, whether you're in just maybe a stable home Maybe a broken home or you're in the system, but it is hard to Find money when you feel like you have to take care of yourself, and I think that this is where the vulnerability in foster care becomes So much more prevalent with the connection in human trafficking because you're like well

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm on my own.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I need to take care of my own.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm trying to find a job, but maybe I don't have great transportation or maybe nobody is hiring me right now or I don't think I have the right skills and I'm trying to make money.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a story of my church action at Youth Group did, switch fights human trafficking night the other night and there was a girl that shared her story of exactly that where she was trying to find money.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was about money.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And she was in foster care, and she just wasn't able to get the money that she needed to be able to make a living, and she was about to age out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And there was a girl that she had met in one of the homes that she was in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She is ran into her in the park one day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And she was like, you know, how are you doing doing good?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And she was like, I'm just out here, you know, just trying to make some money looking for some jobs and just not finding that she's like, oh, you need money.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that was the end, and she was out there recruiting, like you were talking about, and then she got thrust into this life of, well, just not a fun scene.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And her body was used in lots of ways.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, and, and, and, thankfully, she has been able to come out of that due to a lot of resources, organizations like RPOR and, and many other throughout the US.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's it's a dark scene, but it is the reality of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It starts with something simple and innocent and oh, I've got you and you can make X amount of money and just do it one time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's no big deal.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So the statistic is the average age that girl is first track fate is 12 years old and she is trafficked a little over five times a day.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So one of the girls tells a story about, the first time she was trafficked, she was 14, but they dressed her up, so she looks like a 10 year old, but she her first buyer was a doctor, and he gave her six crisp $100 bills.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And she said, I will never forget that moment.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She felt like it finally gave her her independence.

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[SPEAKER_02]: because she made $600, you know?

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[SPEAKER_02]: But again, it was that vulnerability that was exploited.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think a lot of times just talking through all of this and something that I think we tend to do especially around Kansas City as we see people on a street and we see people in this life and we make assumptions of the choices that they made.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like we put our own ideas, our own stories on top of the reality of how they got into these things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's so imperative that we step back

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[SPEAKER_00]: In these cases, and just love them, like you said, they're all daughter of Christ, whether or not they know that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's the same like for, you know, sex trafficking victims for people that are on the street, people that choose to be on the street is, is to make sure that you approach this with compassion and not your own assumptions.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But still being aware, obviously, you can't be, you can't be dumb, you can be smart and loving.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think we do that though.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So we aren't obligated to do anything, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: We think they chose it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, there's ways out, there's resources, so the fact that they're out there that's really on them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think we do that to normalize it and to not get involved.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, on that topic, like one of the things I think that people misunderstand specifically with RPR is people want numbers, people love numbers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's so many people who've gotten out of the life or have you improved enough like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think you have roughly 40 women and girls that go through your doors a day, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: But people want to know how many you've gotten out of that life, but they don't understand the dynamic and the emotional attachment of how long it takes for that person to get out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: someone's going to go through the door and they're going to be like, yeah, I can get out and they're just going to leave, but they don't understand like they're still emotionally attached.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They still have things keeping them in place that aren't necessarily visual things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Can you explain that a little bit?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So last year we had over 695 women come through our doors over 9,000 times.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I consider 695 to be our success story because we don't know what it took for them to get there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We had a gal who came to the center, but she literally would stand outside the door, because they think we're snitches, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Their pimps tell them that we're snitches and don't go in.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so she would stand out the door, but she kept seeing, I mean, we saw this day after day, but she would see the girls coming, go.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so we finally got her through the threshold of the door.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She stood by the door and we wouldn't got her something to eat and drink and she she stood there and pretty soon she came further in and got it out fit.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But we don't know what it took for them to get there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Some of them, I mean, it could have been days since they've eaten or drank because they didn't meet their quota, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: So you don't, you don't get basic needs until you meet your quota.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it could have been days since they've had anything to eat or drink.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We don't know what they went through within the last 24 or 48 hours just to get there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We see it when they walk through the door, but we don't know what it was.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We just know there was trauma, you know, they're just, they're broken.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, how many of them truly think that their John is the one that loves them?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, there is a thing called trauma bond, so imagine the same person who is raping you is also saying, let's go to McDonald's, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: The same person who is abusing you is the same person who's providing you everything that you need.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And sometimes there's this thing where you choose the chance of familiar instead of future choice, because you know, I know I can survive one more day.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I know I can survive one more hour, but if I choose joy, if I choose future joy, that means I have to trust somebody.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They say they're going to do with they said they're going to do, and I'm certain that uncomfortable.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Change is hard.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, think about when you try to start your new year's resolution and going to the gym.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's hard, but you have to be consistent, but intentional.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you got to drink pretty work out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Second, you get up.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You're going to win the gym in an hour, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, you have to be very intentional about the change and that you have to trust your trainer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you have to get there, actually, we see this a good comparison because I see time and time again in my gyms where people will drive up, they'll have scheduled an appointment to come into the gym and see it on the schedule.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They drive up, they sit in their car, they miss the appointment and then text, so sorry, I couldn't make it today, had something come up and they drive away.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, but you were here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't call them out on it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just like,

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, you should come back and if he's a paper or we just go, I see you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'll get out of there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I got an LED light, yeah, see you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I mean, it is tough.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like just getting there and that actually connects to the story.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You were talking about with that lady.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was just as she kept coming, but just walking through the door, that sometimes can be the biggest hurdle.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And once you do that, it's like, oh, okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can lift this weight or oh I can eat this food and get these clothes and like okay like now there's some support there's actually somebody who cares something that I think a lot of people don't know and in this conversation I want to just take it back really quickly on what traffickers do

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[SPEAKER_01]: And something that you guys actually in RPO are help with, and that is, when somebody is trafficked, a lot of their identity, like documents, everything is taken away from them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this is another aspect of, why do I stay?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, because if I do leave, I have no way to get an apartment or a job or something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Can you talk a little bit more about the reality of what that looks like for somebody?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Sure, so yeah, the the pampe takes everything from them cell phones burst to pick it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: IDs, if they have their Social Security card, they take all of that completely separate them from their family.

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[SPEAKER_02]: In fact, if you see a girl with a dude on the street, but he's holding the purse, she has like zero control.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So one of the things that we do is help them replace their documents, and we actually let them use our address to have them mailed, and we retain either a copy for them or the original.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's the big thing when I know that they're starting to get serious about creating an exit plan, like they're starting to think beyond survival mode.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's when they're like, I want to get my birth certificate.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Can you take me to the DMB to get my Missouri ID, my community resource specialist, Godliver, she takes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She goes to the DMV every Tuesday, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right for her, I mean, I have literally heard the DMV considered like, how long are I supposed to be?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, like, they've even been like done like spoofs of that is a portal too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's just awful.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, so I mean for us, that's the biggest indicator that they're really starting to think.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How long on average does it, like, I don't know if you can actually put an average on it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: to get from stepping through that threshold, to building the relationship to the point that they want to even consider getting their IDs back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, because I think that I really want to break the idea that you guys do this in a week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I think so many people are saying, oh my gosh, we'll get from point A to point B in this amount of time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, it takes time, dedication, consistency, not pushing, meaning loving, like, just creating that familiarity with yourselves, making them know

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[SPEAKER_00]: What does that look like?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if you can do that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I can't because it's just so individualized.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It just depends on the trauma that they've experienced.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I wish that it was one and ten.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They walk in and we say them all and we open up a yoga shop.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a marathon, not a sprint with these women.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And you really have to be okay with walking out their journey.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it is their journey into

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[SPEAKER_02]: hope and future and freedom.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it can take years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So people, instead of people thinking, oh, this is going to take a week, they need to start thinking months, years to possibly ever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because like, I know you, I know you're a team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the you guys are not ones to give up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I know for a fact, you probably have some people that have been coming for years and years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you love them the same way as when they worked, like, walked in the first time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's beautiful.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It is.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so that the gal I was referencing earlier about being trafficked at 14, you know, she's one that she would come in all the time and probably about year two or three, we started the process, first to forget Missouri ID.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We connected her with treatment, trauma and form treatment, and did ETS treatment, and

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then we had partnered with a guy who renovated homes and he needed someone to clean the homes afterwards, which cleaning was her thing, so we connected her with him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She had bought T-shirts with her business logo and got all her cleaning supplies with the day came.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Day one, she couldn't do it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like in that moment, she chose the change of familiar, right, because she knew that she didn't know what would happen when she started cleaning houses and started earning an income in a different way.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She still comes in.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We don't treat her any different.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We still love on her.

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[SPEAKER_02]: In fact, I texted her this morning.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She's, you know, at her funeral for a mom.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I mean, you have to be willing to walk it out with them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: because it's on their pace and I do it because I know the next time she's going to get further in her journey of freedom and I want to be there for all of it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Not just, you know, the ups but for the downs too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: With FIFA World Cup coming up in Kansas City, obviously throughout Mexico, Canada, other cities in the US, but Kansas City itself for this topic for human trafficking tends to be a hot spot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: is there any reason, kind of like, why can't the city of all places?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so Missouri is actually number three in the United States per capita.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And considering human trafficking is very under-reported right now, they've identified a little over 500 women as being trafficked in Missouri.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And we have 695 women walk through a door.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Kansas City is

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[SPEAKER_02]: a hub, because it's in the middle of the country, we have, you know, major highway interstates that run north-south east-west, easy to get girls in and out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We also have some major sports teams.

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[SPEAKER_02]: here and anytime there's a big sporting event, there's going to be human trafficking.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So we know that yes, there are going to be women brought in.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They're thinking probably at least thousand, a thousand women brought in during the world cut to be trafficked.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But we also have women who live here are going to be exploited too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Wow, that is sobering.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a really hard statistic.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Something that I was reminded of.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You just recently had a gala for our PLR and there's a gentleman that got on stage that I think gave insight into the mind of you were talking about sports teams and women being brought in and there's kind of as a thought of.

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[SPEAKER_01]: on our side is like, well, that's just absolutely disgusting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But on those who are with these women, their mindset is, oh, no, they want to be here, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the guy who got on stage at the gala was like, hey, I just wanted to say, I'm sorry.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was incredibly,

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[SPEAKER_01]: power for moment.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he kind of talked through the mindset of, they seemed happy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I, I didn't think I was doing anything wrong.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, they wanted this type of a thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's just not the reality of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is that why we see such an increase of among sporting events?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because people just don't think through the reality of what's actually happening.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they're just like, oh, no, this is something that they want.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because the women are getting paid, it's okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I think it's assumed that they are there of their own free will.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They don't know the other part of, you know, what happens.

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[SPEAKER_02]: On the other side of that, the gentleman you're talking about is Neil Getslow.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He has an amazing ministry and he has a book called Unmask, but he specifically addresses a demand reduction, which RPOR is going to launch that piece of our ministry

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[SPEAKER_02]: The way he was unmasked was the scallant back to her pimp and they started extorting him for many.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's when he realized she wasn't there on her own accord that it was about the money and it was completely transactional.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was quite the eye opener for him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This x-trade, it's transactional.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's one of the things we combat at the drop-in center.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, we give them services with nothing

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[SPEAKER_02]: expected in return and they're just not used to that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Even just a, hey, we're glad you're here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, oh, do I need to pick up a cup?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Do I need to sweep floor?

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, no, just come in, relax, but there's no use to everything in their life being transactional.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You want to hear issues.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You have to do this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Do you want to drink a water?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Here's what I need from you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's what's missing on the demand side is it's that instant dopamine fix that there that they're wanting.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I want the dopamine right now, you know, you seem happy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You're you seem like you want to be here, but not knowing what happens on the other side of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you're part of a council, uh, war's council.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A war's council.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I tell us a little bit about that and what work you guys are doing for for the world cup.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I will tell you, Kansas City has an amazing team of nonprofits that really are working towards combating human trafficking.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a re-hope, it's value on conditional, exercise, cry, and as.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're trying to create immediate resources for women to escape during that time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So we've reached out to hospitals and law enforcement, bars, restaurants, hotels, just to kind of train them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: These are some of the indicators that someone is being trafficked.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Here's a number you can call.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to bring a van out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not a free candy van.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That sounds so

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a legitimate ban, but we're going to come and pick you up and we're going to talk to you about how you got here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What do you need?

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[SPEAKER_02]: We have a space of like 21 beds.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, yes, they're being no beds is not an option, but we're going to pour into you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And we're going to give you resources during the World Cup.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's how that program is is going to work, just hoping to.

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[SPEAKER_02]: just helping to rescue as many women that want to be rescued.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, just love on them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's really important with the work that you guys are doing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you don't mind, I know that this has been a really deep conversation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's been a lot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I kind of want to jump into just like even the bags that we're creating for the world cup as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that that's really important.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This has been deep for audience.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I know that and we respect that and we get that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And yet,

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[SPEAKER_01]: As you can hear from care package and bound side from RPOR side and from many other organizations, there are people who are sitting in this uncomfortable and are not turning a blind eye.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're not looking away.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're saying, hey, we know that this is a reality.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We want to do something about it and you guys are stepping in and we are seen and you've seen lots of stories of hope.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you mind just sharing a couple of those with our audience and just kind of talking through some of the

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[SPEAKER_01]: In a dark moment, what are some of the beautiful things that you've been able to see come out of our POR in the ministry?

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[SPEAKER_02]: So one of the gals that used to come in, she was getting ready to roll up on a birthday and it was going to be a significant birthday and she's like, I don't want to spend not one more day out there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She was an alcoholic, uh, clearly started drinking to avoid the trauma.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And we were able to get her into a medication assistant detox program and I'll never forget she would she had been there two weeks.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She would come into the center.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You couldn't understand a word she was saying because she was just she was so wasted.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But when I talked to her that first time

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[SPEAKER_02]: I couldn't, I mean, I was just in awe.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Just in awe.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She just sounded clear.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She could complete his sentence.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Her thoughts were together.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was nothing short of miraculous.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I got to tell you, she completed that 21 day program.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She's now at Rio and working through their program.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: it is it is awesome and there was another gal she used to come into the center quite a bit she actually had her jaw broke I mean we can only imagine why she needed IV antibiotics because her jaw got infected we got it at the emergency room she had a ton of warrants we got her and

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[SPEAKER_02]: Clearing your warrants is a roller story.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Helped her clear warrants.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She's at Rehope.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We were actually able to go and sit in on our graduation.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And she got her some new teeth.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She has her CNA.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She's working.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She's actually working at Rehope.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She's got her warrants taken care of.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She now has a car.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She's living in a tiny home.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There is hope.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I can tell you the women.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They obviously come in more than one time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I see the relief on their face.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We have a security guard there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You actually have to gain entrance.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So just to see, it's like, I made it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I live in Fort Scott, but I drive an hour and a half two times a week just so I can see the faces.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And just so I can be a part of it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And you can't, you can't see, you can't see that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's really, it really is beautiful just to be a part of their journey.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'll just say the packages, the backpacks that you guys are doing, that's such a gateway, just to hand someone a bag that says, these are things that I think you need.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I don't need anything in return.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not transactional, but I'm thinking about you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If you need something, let us know, but we love you enough that we just want to give you a bag.

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[SPEAKER_02]: just let us know when you need something, but we love you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We care about you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's just such a gateway and a great conversation starter for any woman who's being trafficked.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's huge.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We don't typically give backpacks for human trafficking, although it is something that

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we are open to doing whatever we need to do and kind of wherever God says here's how to use the backpacks to pickle it is for foster care as the audience knows but do mind sharing a little bit more about like why are we stepping in right now what's the need.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We distribute through quite a variety of I call it the umbrella effect and we have several umbrellas in our distribution network throughout Kansas City.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we start, obviously, when we first started, we were working with the social network, so we're working with like cornerstone and KVC.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then we got into police stations and hospitals.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And when, when you're in those situations, like obviously our main idea is to make sure that when a child first enters foster care, they're able to have those needs provided for them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: upon placement, instead of having to wait several days, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: But to do that, we would have to make sure that we were, they were as multiple times through multiple steps, basically.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But being in those situations, especially the hospitals and the police stations, it's really hard for them to separate foster care and human trafficking.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so what we've been saying is foster care and police protective services.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But then we've added the human trafficking element to it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: in full during this prep time before the World Cup.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And one of the reasons why I reached out to one of my police contacts because we actually have our bags directly in the police stations.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, hey, we have some team bags ready for you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'd like to refill your stock, how many do you need?

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[SPEAKER_00]: They told us, and then my contact was like, hey, can we use these for the younger kids, too?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I had two things going through my head for that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Number one is I didn't know you were out of the younger bags.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We were going to fix that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And number two, why are we asking this now instead of before?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, because we have bags from 5 to 6, 7 and 9, 10 to 12, and then our range of team bags, which is all those different sizes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I told them I was like, absolutely, you can.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But are you needing the younger bags for the human trafficking?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And she said, yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So our police, as wonderful they are, do not have crazy amounts of money to spend.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they don't have the supplies necessary to give children and women in people.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The supplies they need for their first 24 hours when they are rescued out of human trafficking.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so they asked us to supply that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so what that meant though is we had just made 420 team bags were down to 55.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We just made them last month and we didn't have any 5 through 12 bags.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so we are making an emergency packing event for our 5 through 12.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to have those prayed over and they're going to go out before the 12th of June to make sure that the kids and the teens and the adults go in to this situation have everything to just make them human again.

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's one resource, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just the backpacks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And again, it's we need nothing in return.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We see the same thing in foster care too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We know we'll give a child a bag and they're like, well, what do I need to do?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I, I, I know I owe you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, I know you don't owe us anything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Expound on that point is actually we've had talks with social workers where they talk about the fact that the bag is coming from an entity that they cannot repay and it helps with the initial relationship with the foster parent because if a lot of times what will happen is if a foster parent is the one giving the supplies and it's from them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and those children will go into a foreign response and it can last for years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it is that that given take kind of mentality, but being able to give them something that there is no possible way that they could repay because there's no possible way for them to get in touch with us in the way to repay it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're able to kind of get through that initial response of IOU for these items.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just theirs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I know you know that too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just theirs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, that's good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: resources specifically for youth.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I would say if if you are fostering a kiddo or you know of a kiddo, use experience trauma, I would highly recommend value unconditional.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They are faith-based, but they provide amazing talk therapy, group therapy mentors.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We partner with them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: regularly.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The stop trafficking project with REST Tuttle is pretty incredible.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He goes into the school and he educates parents and kids what happens on social media and how you get groomed and how you can probably be sexually exploited without you even knowing it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We've also partnered with I mentioned re-hope.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They have a long-term treatment program.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They have one for adolescents as well.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So they work with adolescents and women, when 99.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm telling you, Kansas City is, yeah, I mean we really do have a wealth of specific resources for people who've been sexually exploited.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're really quite, quite lucky, and we all work together.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're not in competition.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I am not ashamed to call reopens.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I, you know, I need help with this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I refer people all the time to them and just stop trafficking.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They're really as a wealth of resources, but those, I know, they excel at what they do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think E21 is another one that comes to mind.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're pretty good at having some of the resources and what you were saying, education wise, kind of what to look for.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Which is really important man something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you so much.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This has been again Tough but just so important a question that we always ask on every single episode is if this episode were a backpack What is one thing that you hope people walk away carrying?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I can give you a second to think of your answer if you'd like just if you had an answer Well, what would that be?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it's always a hard hard one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think What I hope people walk away carrying is number one that everyone

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[SPEAKER_00]: in those situations are still people, you know, and their individuals with stories and make sure that you don't just apply your own thought process to what you think that they are.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Their people that are loved, you know, and they deserve to be loved.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And there's ways that we can step up as individuals in our every day to love them, you know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And there's amazing organizations out there working hard.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think I say this almost at every episode is that you can do something.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You as an individual.

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[SPEAKER_00]: can step out of your comfort zone and do something and just figure out where God is calling you and start stepping even if you don't know even if you don't know where that's going to lead as long as you know it's God driven it's going to be okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well said.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well I'm going to kind of tag team on that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So for it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to piggyback on that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I would just encourage people to not

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, these women are on the streets.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Just don't look away, find a way to get involved.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it doesn't, for us, you don't have to come down and do direct contact and we would love for you to come down and volunteer.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But do a donation drive, collect hygiene items, collect shoes for us, have a small group come down and do a deep clean for us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We will find a way for you to get involved.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I just truly just don't look away.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Don't pretend that these these girls don't deserve more.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's really important that that we do what God asks us to do.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We have to be obedient.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If he's an agent at your heart to do something, you gotta do it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Amen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, I think that I would say to anyone listening that we see you, that you are worthy, that you matter is something that I want you to carry away from this conversation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you are unsure of a conversation that's going on on social media or between somebody else, reach out to an adult, don't be embarrassed by it, ask questions, because you matter, and we see you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, so Stephanie, thank you so much.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you guys, if this conversation starts something in you, again, don't ignore it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Awareness changes little action transforms.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see you next time, unpacked with Purpose.