You Don't Have to Be a Foster Parent to Change a Child's Life

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[SPEAKER_03]: I view foster care as the heart of our city.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We have the human trafficking problem.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We have the incarceration rate.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We have the homeless rights.

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[SPEAKER_03]: These are all symptoms of a heart condition that we have in Kansas City.

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[SPEAKER_03]: If we want to see an impact in 20 years, we need to do something now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: When a child gets something brand new, I'm going to bring it to myself when I received something brand new as a kid.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There was an unspoken conversation between the person who gave it to me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That said, you're valuable.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You're seen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll welcome to packed with purpose, a care package inbound podcast, a care package inbound exists to deliver hope.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you listening to this podcast, you're actually going to be part of that hope.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My name is Chris Youngdale.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm joined by Jessica Soli.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Excellent.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Today's episode, we are really excited.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We've got a special guest with somebody who's journey with CPI has been quite incredible and we're really excited to be able to introduce Emily Lynn Hart.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Emily Lynn Hart is the CFO of Care Package inbound.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So Emily, welcome.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is this your first podcast?

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, it's not actually okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you have some experience in podcasting.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: My first podcast.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was actually at a at my home as opposed to a studio.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So this is a little new.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Got it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How are you feeling?

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're high class here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think I'm okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think as long as I can breathe in like.

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[SPEAKER_02]: pretend that this is a coffee shop.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think they're right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We've got a coffee mug.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's filled with water.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's no coffee in it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But that's really amazing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well Emily, I'm excited for today's conversation because we get a just jump into what's been going on with you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And your journey like we talked about into care package inbound.

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[SPEAKER_01]: For me, the earliest memory of our conversation actually was, so we go back a ways.

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[SPEAKER_01]: like, we've been friends for a really long time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, you and my wife have been friends for, well, I guess the same moment.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But we went out for lunch randomly because we hadn't seen each other in a minute and you were like, what's going on?

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[SPEAKER_01]: We were giving up dates and it's like, yeah, kind of doing this thing with, you know, some girl named Jess, um, and it's called Care Package inbound.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we were able to kind of share vision, need kind of hope.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What was your first kind of reaction to hearing about CPI?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think the first reaction was like, wow, this is amazing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like the fact that there was a possibility of helping the foster care system without being a foster parent.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so that was probably the the biggest like aha moment for me was that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I could actually like contribute If I'm not able to foster at this time in my life.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So and honestly, let's just be really real like you know We had been doing small group together at our church.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We had been doing things together.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like you're doing something without me

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, totally fair, because you and Joe at the time were like co-leaders and like branching off and how to like I'm gonna run my own kind of small group and so yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we ended up joining one of our when we had our our small group had gotten really big and so we ended up joining the other group once our time had come to an end and so yeah I was like between the small group and

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[SPEAKER_03]: wanting to, you know, join in on whatever you guys were doing or whatever you were doing at the time because I didn't know you yet, just um, I was like, we missed each other and like, like, we had like, you know, the degrees of separation thing was always funny because after we got together, we're like, oh wait a minute, we have like so many connections going way back into our childhood that we just missed each other by like one degree.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It truly is a small world.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, truly small world.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so just if I, if I may, like, when I heard the conversation, like when I heard you're talking about and sharing about it, I, I just, there was something that just kind of, like, I don't know what the word is other than like sparkled shimmer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it came alive.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it came alive.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it came alive.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so I was like, tell me more.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, from that point, then I heard about an opportunity to join you all in a,

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[SPEAKER_02]: Backpacking event and that was probably what about three months after I had had the initial conversation with Cassie.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and then I think you discovered just that Emily and I are basically the same person.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, it's we have a very weird dynamic between the three of us because I always think it's funny because I forget we were separated at that point.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But you guys have like this like sibling thing and I am definitely part of the sibling group, but I am definitely the youngest.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And you have that vibe, you're like, come on, come on.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm just tossing the younger.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and I'm so okay with it, because I am actually the youngest in my family group, so I just fit right into that role.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And it works great.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But now, I think it's been like, Emily, beyond just being helpful for CPI.

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[SPEAKER_03]: has been an incredible friend and there's been times that in this struggle of getting things going it's not easy.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We've all leaned on each other heavily and it's been pretty incredible to have you along so I appreciate you if I don't say that enough.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I appreciate you guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah you had said something that kind of like it came alive when you were hearing about it and I think you know a lot of times like vision can sound when somebody's sharing vision that sounds

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[SPEAKER_01]: but it becomes real when you see it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you had mentioned that you were able to step into a packing event.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A couple of months after actually hearing it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, talking to me a little bit about that event.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What was your first reaction to it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if it's tangible, something that you can actually do, you're seeing it in action, you're a part of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think you would brought your kids to it as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, talking to me a little bit about that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So that was actually one of the primary reasons why I came.

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[SPEAKER_02]: My son needed nonprofit, needed community service hours.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And also we were at the season of life where I really wanted him to learn about serving other people, serving organizations.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so the conversation that we had at the restaurant was very timely because that was really heavily on my mind.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Then, you know, two months later, I walk into this really big event.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, the place that had been rented was large.

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[SPEAKER_02]: extraordinary, you know, and we had tables, there was tables everywhere, there were items everywhere that were just like, okay, this is interesting, like this is, these are physical items going into backpacks, like I just, all of it looked like just a really cool opportunity to serve kiddos and children, and so

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, yeah, so I brought my son along.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't bring my other two.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I have three kids.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't bring my other two.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I just brought my son along and we together just started assembling backpacks.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I saw you guys running around like crazy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And now you are the person that runs around.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I know I'm the one that runs around.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's what we all do, but yes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I'm a part of that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it was, it was a really cool experience.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's just seeing everybody work together for

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[SPEAKER_02]: just good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was just me, especially this was in the season where it was very dark for globally.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, and to see a spark of light and a spark of hope come from this event was incredibly empowering and very encouraging.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I wanted to know more, I wanted to learn more, and I wanted to join in that work.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There was absolutely a desire to join in the work after I experienced that first packing event.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because this was coming right out of the pandemic.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, yeah, that was the reason why we didn't see each other.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and that's yeah, that's why we were catching up is because everyone's kind of out of lockdown and hey, we can, you know, be friends again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think what's kind of cool about this, you share in your experience with the first packing event is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: for volunteers coming in they're seeing one thing right you're seeing these tables and you're seeing like the the potential impact and actually being part of that impact was just amazing for us there was this huge curtain if you remember or you don't remember behind that curtain just if you remember I remember chaos it would be smart okay this is this is where do I remember I

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[SPEAKER_02]: You probably don't know there's like room dividing things.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it was behind this pot.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was behind the pot.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yes, yeah behind the pot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So behind the we thought it would be smart to let's bring every item that we have for CPI and let's do inventory before this event.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we're setting up for this not a good idea

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[SPEAKER_01]: Try to be in the story.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And then like we actually think like the way that we pack bags now is completely different to you because at that time we were still coming into doing like massive amounts of bags because we needed to know like how many we could make and knowing like what we needed to put into those more still doing the research and so on and so forth.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So even that packing event itself is it's completely changed.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But I hope that the people that come to our packing events now still have that impact that you had that they come in and they see the purpose, they see the research, they see the heart behind it and hopefully a little less panic because we I'm glad that you didn't notice it on our face that day because yeah there was there was a couple times.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that I mean even though you know it's like one of those like a duck going down a stream and it looks very calm but actually it's like

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but you just couldn't see that part of it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So in my opinion, it was a well-run event because I didn't know anything different and just again to make that impact to see as we were packing the bags to see those backpacks then gather on the floor and incomplete it being completed and then just being able to be like, wow, like these are actually going to get distributed out to our local area into our local kids.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a powerful thing to be part of and I'm really excited that you took that next step to be part of it You had said something though that that's kind of sticking with me and you were bringing your son into this Now obviously he needed community service hours, right, which is really really great But you had this passion of I want to do a little bit more and let's bring my child into this But also you had made a statement earlier that how can I impact the foster community?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Even if I'm not an active foster parent right now and I think that the thing is is invitation So how can we as parents invite our children model?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not only just to our children, but I think to anyone who's listening right now as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How can we model the ability to make an impact even though we're not in the middle of something right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we're not fostering is there still a way that we can

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[SPEAKER_01]: model that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that we can't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I just kind of want to riff on that for a little bit is what are some of the ways that that we can invite our children and what's something of the impact that that they can actually get from you being involved in this too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The word foster care is just like this really big word and you don't know like what goes into foster care.

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[SPEAKER_02]: it feels like it's too big.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's too big to handle.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And if I can't handle it all, I'm kind of an all or nothing kind of person.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If I can't handle it all or if I can't contribute to this just big.

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[SPEAKER_02]: opportunity and challenge that we see in our society, then why, why spend time at all?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so I think the biggest thing for me with my son, with my kids, is that when you have a heart for something, you don't discount what you have in your talent pool, if you fill in the gifts that you've been given to contribute, you use what you've been given to be able to serve the community as a whole, to specifically this community.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think for me that's that's modeling it's just saying you know what this is who I am this is what I have to offer and I'm going to give whatever I've got And that for me for me that's that that would be the example that I want to leave for my kids is that you give what you have You know, and it's going to be enough.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to get multiplied somehow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's powerful just

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think for me, with my kids, it's definitely something that I've noticed after years of doing this.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, we started CPI when, I think Felix was too, was when I first started the research of it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But what I've noticed is that my kids actually see people.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And it's not necessarily like, they don't agree with everyone.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They're not like always 100% doing whatever it is to please that person.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But they see people and they love people, and like they see the guys on the side of the road.

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[SPEAKER_03]: that need a coat and my kids see other children in their classrooms that are struggling and they understand and they have empathy for these kids, these people and these kids and these communities that I think most of the world right now is kind of blind too.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We tend to get in these personal bubbles of schedules.

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[SPEAKER_03]: like, what's next on my schedule?

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[SPEAKER_03]: And when that thing pops up or that person pops up outside of our schedule, we don't have time to divvy away from it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Our carefully laid out plans to take care of that person.

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[SPEAKER_03]: and it's like at what cost.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mentioned this to you earlier today and I was saying like Tim Teebo's been all over all of my social media everywhere but he had this quote and I wrote it down and he said

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[SPEAKER_03]: who's talking about being successful, let me see if I could find it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And it's like, it says success is personal, significance is about others.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think that what we're doing right now is training our children to be significant.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think that that's much more valuable than telling them that they have to be successful in life.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Wilson, you know, Wilson.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think something that you had mentioned is the feeling of being paralyzed because something is so overwhelming, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think a lot of people find themselves in that position so many times when you think through so many things in the world, but we're talking through foster care right now and the foster community, the impact there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It is big.

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[SPEAKER_01]: don't have a place that are being bounced around from home to home.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It is overwhelming when you think about the sheer need that this community has.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so yeah, for many people, it can be like, well, it's just too big.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just too little.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't make a difference.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's one of those things that like, if everybody does,

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[SPEAKER_01]: what they can do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just tap into your capacity.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you only have an hour to give and in that hour it's, you wrote a couple notes of encouragement to somebody, you're making a difference, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you only have a couple hours to give so you just show up to a public packing event,

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[SPEAKER_01]: the life of a child who's receiving that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If we all just do something small, the impact can be so great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that that's the invitation that I want for my kids is I want to invite them into do what you can.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't stand on the sideline like come along be part of something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They usually show up to help a load or unload or they pack a couple bags or whatever it is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Back when I had all of the stuff in my basement just would show up, and they'd be downstairs helping her organize and do different things talking her ear off I got all the dirt She knew too much about her family

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[SPEAKER_03]: But that's okay.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's wicked still.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There is an invitation to not shy away from it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not too big.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And also I think that we're teaching our kids and being involved in this too is that you actually have

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[SPEAKER_01]: more than you think that you can give and being a part of something that's larger than you is amazing.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think on that theme, just, you know, as you know, you guys know, we are Christ-based.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And in the Bible, most people know this story about Jesus feeding the 5,000.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He fed the 5,000 with a couple of fish and a couple of those of bread.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That is pittance.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And so if

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[SPEAKER_03]: with very little, what can he do for with our very little obedience with our very little skills?

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[SPEAKER_03]: If we are obedient towards the calling that he is telling us to go towards, it doesn't matter that it's little because he can multiply.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think that that's very important is like, if you can do that with Loves of Bread, what can he do with what I give?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's really good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's something in Middle Eastern culture actually in Jewish culture specifically where they have this connection

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[SPEAKER_01]: Plants and trees in the environment around them, and there's a tree called a tamarctree, and the thing with this is, when you plant it, it takes so long to grow, to bear fruit, that you are not going to experience the fruit of this, the shade of this, but generations to come will.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so something that they pose, they ask this question a lot is,

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[SPEAKER_01]: what territory have you planted today?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What have you done to impact generations from now?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You might not see the fruit of it, but what are you doing?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What tree are you planting today for future generations?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that that sticks with me from when we're talking about CPIs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We may not see the full fruit of this, but we're planting trees right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to continue to keep planting trees that are going to

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[SPEAKER_01]: bare fruit and have shade, generations from now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's just even thinking about generations like beyond ours or even our children's, it blows my mind.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So holding on to that hope and realizing that, yeah, there is a legacy being built right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And we don't know what's gonna happen on the other side of this after work on, but yeah, it's mind blowing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Our job is just to plant the tree right and can you say yes to planting tree and if you like yes I can plant I can start some I can sew a seed then it can it can be something really cool in the future in order to plant a tree You have to get out of your own way

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, you have to be able.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we're uncomfortable.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But again, if I'm looking at, okay, this is I'm a bookkeeper by trade.

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[SPEAKER_02]: How in the world am I going to impact care, you know, the foster care community with bookkeeping?

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, like that's, that's where your mind would go, unless you have a, you know, unless you have a keen and perspective as we call it, or just, you know, the perspective that goes beyond just the here and the now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, yeah, that's.

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[SPEAKER_03]: but like you guys are absolutely right and we're we're on this tree theme right now and I'm just going to continue it because I you bring you up the tamer tree we were talking about this the other day and we talked about these things a lot you know and the quote that I say which is pretty much the same thing and it says society grows great when old men plant trees the shade of which they know they will never sit in.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And that just brings me back to the full spectrum of the heart of foster care.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So, you guys know this and I don't think I've ever said it on the podcast.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But I view foster care as the heart of our city.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And we have so many different things in Kansas City in the world that we see today that are impacted by it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We have, you know, we have the human trafficking problem.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We have the incarceration rate.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We have the homeless neighbors.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Unless rate.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We have the rate of children going back into foster care because their parents were in foster care.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So in and so forth, these are all symptoms of a heart condition that we have in Kansas City.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I can, you know, put statistics and studies out to you all day long.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I read them in for a hobby at this point, for Evan Sakes.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But the point is, if we want to see an impact in 20 years, if we want to actually see less homeless, if we want to see better rates for children successfully not going into human trafficking, so on and so forth, we need to do something now.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We can't go back in time.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So what are we doing now for tomorrow?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's important to set those things in place.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And you're right, we might not ever see what that looks like in 20 years, but we can start it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And that's important.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And sometimes we all, well, we're not going to make a difference.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You might not see your difference.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But that's not the point.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Again, I love Middle Eastern culture.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Beautiful.

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[SPEAKER_03]: One of the things that they do a lot is they do hand weaving.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And if you ever watch someone weave a piece of cloth

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[SPEAKER_03]: and you have different strings going this way and different strings going this way.

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[SPEAKER_03]: My perspective, our life, God calls us to be one string.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We have strings that are gonna run alongside us and we have strings that are going to be running this way.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So we'll have some that will just be intermediate with us for a minute, but it's so hard for us because we have this life and we know we're a string but we can't see the rest of the tapestry.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And until our string has completed its purpose,

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[SPEAKER_03]: And as our maker, God is our maker, he's our weaver.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He's gonna say, you need to trust me, you need to be a string.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And then when I'm done, you'll be able to see the beauty of what I've created.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And but it's so hard because we go, well, I'm not enough.

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[SPEAKER_03]: God said, I didn't call you to be enough.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I told you to be obedient.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And it's so hard sometimes for us that want to be movers and shakers and get a full picture to just be like, okay, I'm gonna be the best string I can be and trust that you have the rest.

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[SPEAKER_01]: that's good stuff good life lessons today yeah um yeah so life lessons let's talk through that a little bit actually i think that that's a great segue uh you had shared with me it in a lot of past conversations actually i think potentially even at that lunch that we had talked about but just how personal this has become

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[SPEAKER_01]: stepping into care package and bound.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And one of the things that you had shared is how for you growing up, you didn't grow up with a lot of brand new.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think specifically was something that was rare and just as a reminder for,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Our audience is that we are dedicated as care package and bound to what goes into her backpacks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They are new items.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Most of the items, if we can keep the tags on them, we keep the tags on them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Some don't have tags because they come in packages and we have to separate them out to be able to pack them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But they are all brand new items.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So this child isn't getting

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[SPEAKER_01]: hand me down so they're not getting old used clothes and telling them like this is all that your worth.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Know you are worth something brand new.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's something that really stuck out to you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Can you share a little bit more about that?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so actually we can go back to the first packing event.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't realize how impacted I would be about brand new and I actually didn't

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, why I had such a heart in a lot of ways for, for care package and bound and the mission of it, um, really until like six months ago.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, that's embarrassing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I've been with you all for almost five years.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so you think that I would know like, why, why am I, why, why does this matter to me so much?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's really because of, it's because of that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: When a child gets something brand new, I'm going to say, I'm going to bring it to myself.

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[SPEAKER_02]: When I received something brand new as a kid.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There was an unspoken conversation between the person who gave it to me that said, you're valuable.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You're seeing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And you're still valuable.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to give you brand new.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not going to give you cast-offs.

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[SPEAKER_02]: you know and and so when yeah when you can't when you can't afford a lot you go to their stores you know you go to secondhand you go to use and and I think you know nowadays as an adult you know if I can get you know a piece of furniture off a Facebook marketplace then I'm like yeah let's go for it you know it's prefer to

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that price as opposed to a brand new price, but when it came to when it comes to like clothing specifically, there's something about a brand new item and I was reminded of a very specific instance as a as a child where I was given a brand new outfit from a relative and it just it changed my life.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think about that picture now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think when my relative still has it, I hope so.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I think about the picture with this brand new outfit.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that is the, I think when I have doubts about, you know, carrying on or just, you know, we're going through a hard day or hard season, you're like, okay, you know, when do we get the next packing event?

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[SPEAKER_02]: When do we get the resources to be able to purchase the items for a backpacking event?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I go back to being like, this is why it matters.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because as a little girl, I found that value of being seen and heard and loved and I'm so I mean, so one of the items was hot pink shorts like that is not a practical item But it was so impactful for me, and I'm so thankful for that memory and that truly is when I think about it the real reason why I do what I do with CPI and why I want to continue to do it because

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[SPEAKER_02]: a little, because when you can give just an item, a beautiful item, a quality item, a brand new item to a child, it changes the world.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It changes the world intrinsically, you know, and that's, and it's like, wow, I want to be able to do this for somebody else too, because it matters so much to me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they're not, I mean, the clothing, the items in the backpack, they're not just supplies.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think what you're saying is like, this is a message to the child receiving is that you matter.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I'll put that's powerful.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not just items.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a message.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's my hope.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We realize just how that affects them long-term.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like we talk about how these are 48-hour emergency bags.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And that's true.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But the items inside are studied and we make sure they're really good quality and so on and so forth.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And in the end, like that matter, that message that you matter can affect them on how they approach the rest of their life.

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[SPEAKER_03]: because like I am more valuable than if I did that or I am more valuable than to put myself in that situation and I think that's the message that we want to send these kids is you have value and it doesn't matter where you came from and it doesn't matter what you've been through it doesn't matter what people have done to you try to take away from you whatever kind of nonsense has happened I'd say other words but we're on air.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Whatever thing has put you in that situation does not diminish your value.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You are intrinsically valued.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And there's nothing that you can do that are gonna, this gonna make us or God, look at you in a differently.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

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[UNKNOWN]: No.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a hard message to receive a lot of times when you've been through something so dramatic, though.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So hard, and it really hard to believe, I think.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I've had a lot of kids, my husband and I are privileged enough to be able to mentor some college kids and stuff.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And we've had a couple kids, one specifically, and we told them, we're like, hey, we love you.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And they're like, why?

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[SPEAKER_03]: I was like, because we chose to.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And that's it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You didn't do anything to earn it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You can't do anything to get rid of it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We just chose to.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And it just blew their mind.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They still couldn't get it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But we decided, you know what?

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[SPEAKER_03]: We're going to love you and we're going to prove it to you day after day.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And that's what we're doing at Care Packaging Bond.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We love these kids.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I can tell you that from the depths of my heart, as I love my kids, my biological kids.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But when I say my kids, I mean,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this is where we're starting obviously.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We are goal or heart is to take this beyond Kansas City.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we will eventually actually with your help Emily.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to be able to do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I want to kind of jump into potentially like looking at long-term vision.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you're okay with that because you had stepped in from a packing event.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So lunch to a packing event to

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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like I need to do more in you stepped in, not just as a volunteer, but as our CFO, which is not a small task, that's actually a big task.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, tucked me a little bit about what made you take that step.

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[SPEAKER_02]: to take the step to becoming a CFO?

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's the desire to, I remember after that first packing event, giving you a call and saying, you know, I have this picture in my mind of just how impactful CPI can be, not just to Kansas City, but globally.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so I want to join in.

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[SPEAKER_02]: How can I help?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it was so funny because of my mind, I'm like gathering inventory, making calls, calling potential donors, you know, and Chris is like, well, we need a bookkeeper.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, you need a bookkeeper.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, and I, I, I, I have that look on my face because I was like, oh, really, you just need a bookkeeper?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think you knew at that point that I had stepped into owning my own bookkeeping firm.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so I was like, okay, you know, this is my next client as an independent contractor.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's go for it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I, yeah, over the last few years, just making just,

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[SPEAKER_02]: keeping the financial reports going, making sure that everything has a nice bow on it, everything's accurate, all of that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I just want to continue to help CPI grow and whatever that looks like.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So long-term, I just would love to continue to get more involved to be able to extend the

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[SPEAKER_02]: The foundation, a strong foundation here before we can move on, really desiring to have a strong foundation here before we're able to do that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But making it happen, and whatever that and whatever capacity that looks like.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I remember something when we're talking here.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I remember when you very first started and we were both super excited and what which we still are.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But like you had a dream and I had something very, very similar.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And it was a picture in, and I remind me, if you like, if this, like, gets in here, it's gone.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But it was like a picture of United States.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And in my dream, there was this blooming that started happening in, like Kansas City.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And then all of a sudden there was more blooming that was happening throughout the rest of the United States and before we knew it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It was just this beautiful light coverage of the entire United States starting from Kansas City and it was just knowledge and care and I'm We I couldn't describe it, but I remember talking to you about it and you had something similar and I was like that's cool Yeah, you know, and I think your specifically you said it was a light that came from Kansas City.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It was the blue flame blue flame Yeah, mine was flower because gardening

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[SPEAKER_03]: That started in Kansas City and just kind of just started taking up the map.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And we're like, yes, and I very much so felt like it was what we were called to do.

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[SPEAKER_03]: and I'm like we're starting here because this is where we originate.

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[SPEAKER_03]: This is where God is telling us to be.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's so important to have your mission field where your feet are.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Whether your feet take you wherever you are, every day, your mission field is where your feet are.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But I see us continuing to grow for the kingdom and just

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[SPEAKER_02]: see where this can take it because foster care at number one it's it's been stuffed under a rug for 80 years so people just need to know more about it but also there is something that everyone can do and I think it's beautiful well and I think especially just even going back to your quote it's not about success it's about significance because if significance isn't serving other people I want to significant life and if I can impact even the even if even if that

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[SPEAKER_02]: was so prominent in my mind, and I'm like, oh my gosh, I feel so overwhelming.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know how I'm going to be in my mind.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, I've got to go everywhere and do all of this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, like, you're saying, like, I just need to be faithful with where I'm at and serve my community with what I've been given.

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[UNKNOWN]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think you've got incredible ability to cast vision, encouragement, and also you're just really gifted with being able to see where we're at and store what we have very, very well, which is a big reason why I was like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think we need to go deeper than bookkeeper and also you can't just be a volunteer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Emily, have this habit, I guess, apparently we do to you, and now I'm just not realizing this by the way that you, because you're like, yeah, you like push me to go further and just keep trying to get rid of care packaging about it at the beginning and I was like, you have to run this.

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[SPEAKER_03]: My problem is, I was like, you know, we talk about the significance and stuff like that and we talk about being overwhelmed.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I was,

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[SPEAKER_03]: for the longest time, and still struggle with my inadequacies.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I go, man, I am not enough.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I have to remember Christ always in the back of my head, and he says, I never called you to me enough.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm enough, and I'm like, okay.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, but I did.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I tried to get rid of it for so long, but now I think we have this wonderful trio, where as I go, oh my gosh, look at this.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Look at this huge vision that's so amazing.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And then Chris is like, yes, let's bring it back here and let's make sure that we can practically take care of it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And then Emily's over here and he's like, and she's like, this is how we would take care of it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yes.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And so between the three of us, we have this ability.

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[SPEAKER_03]: to feed, see, and start a full vision.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's not just one of us, like I'm gonna be honest, my heads in the clouds 90% of the time, I'm trying my best.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You do pretty much.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But between the two of you were able to actually,

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think follow God's calling, and I tell people this all the time, I was like, when you start on anything that God tells you to do, it feels like you're on the edge of the Grand Canyon and God is like, hey, on the other side of the Grand Canyon.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I need to start walking, you need to go right there.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And you're like, oh my gosh, God, but look at the crevice, look at the huge canyon between me and your will.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Look at all the things that I can't cover.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And he says, I never asked you to tell me how you were gonna do it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I told you to start stepping.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And it's this, like, reminds me of what can I think of his name, Temple of Doom, has a whip in the end of Jones.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And the end of Jones.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you.

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[SPEAKER_03]: With the time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We've got some work to do, Emily.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So in the one where he has, he's trying to get the goblet, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: No.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And he has to pass over this crevice or this canyon, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: And in it there's this invisible bridge.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And he doesn't know that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He kind of figures it out by throwing some dust on it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We don't have that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But the idea is that you have to have faith and walk.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And it's a very visual representation of that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I can tell you, every single step is terrifying.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I keep quoting different things.

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[SPEAKER_03]: There's also this thing like Lion King, Rafihi talking to some of his dad up in clouds.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And he's like, that's the plan.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He's like, you've been up there too long.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Your head isn't like loud.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He's like, I can't tell you how many times I've had conversations with God going really, really, I don't know, and he's like,

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, and I think, so with both of us, you know, struggling with doubts and everything, like that, you were kind of like talking about Chris was just like this, you're kind of like a coach in a lot of ways, like this athletic coach just says, keep going, keep going, like you can do it, like stop doubting yourself, keep going.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I appreciate that it really does help bring the team together and just be able to support one another.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would say that overall, actually, care package and bone, we exist, obviously, to deliver hope.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We say this a lot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, to the foster care community, really through this podcast, through packed with purpose, a big goal of mine is just to encourage our listeners to take those steps.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if I can coach from, from this platform, if we can coach from this platform,

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[SPEAKER_01]: If somebody doesn't believe in God, there is still this feeling that you get, whether you believe in God or not, there is this uncomfortableness when you are faced with a hard topic, like foster care for example, and my encouragement is to just press into that uncomfortable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like sit in that uncomfortable for a second and do something about it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You can you you can do something about it I would love to to encourage our audience to just take those steps It can be in your daily day like I was we're talking to a bunch of teenagers the other day and we're like hey When you see someone and you think they have really great hair say something

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[SPEAKER_03]: if if you are walking along and you encourage them to have some encouragement so let's say that you're a gamer kid right and you decide that you know I don't know if anybody knows what discord is or anything like that but you can be encouraging to those around you you can be a bright spot to those around you every day and like I encourage

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[SPEAKER_03]: the people listening to this podcast to just start being that bright light.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It is so easy in today's world to be negative.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Really is, but intentionally set your mind to being a bright light on your daily interactions, your daily walk, whatever that is.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And so that way that you instead of complaining about all the things that we want to see in the world, you're going to be able to find that joy, you know.

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[SPEAKER_03]: with that, with that intentionality, you know?

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[SPEAKER_03]: And yeah, we want to encourage you to come and walk beside us, we do.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But at the same time, we want you to start using that intentionality in your daily life.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have a feeling that you're going to echo pretty much what you just said.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But Emily, you know, something that we're going to start doing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is going to be new on this podcast.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we get a kind of use you to try this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But we want to ask this question at the end of a podcast with any guests or just if it's just you and I hear the question is this, if this episode, we're a backpack.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What's one thing that you hope people walk away carrying?

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[SPEAKER_02]: What I want people to carry away from this conversation is a motivation to do something with what they've been given.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Whatever gift that is, if it's bookkeeping, if it's being able to call a friend or to call a business and say, hey, I have this really cool organization that needs resources.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think just the motivation to just do what you can with what you've been given is probably the way I would.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I would answer that question.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's another word that I want to use to, that's just not coming to my mind, but we'll just stick with motivation for now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It might come in just a second.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It might come in just a second.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It probably will.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It might come in just a second.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It might come in just a second.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It probably will come in just a second.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It probably will come in just a second.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It probably will come in just a second.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It probably will come in just a second.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think you were right when you said I was going to echo a little bit of what I said before, but I think just moving back to that, that quote about significance.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, if you can live your life daily in pursuit of a significant difference in the world around you, I think that that is a beautiful thing, and I'm not saying that you shouldn't strive to be successful.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think being successful is wonderful.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It even provides maybe even stepping stones for you to be more

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[SPEAKER_03]: But, at the end of the day, when you lay down your head and you're passing away, whatever it is, at the end of your life, strive for a life of significance.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's good.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I wouldn't want people carrying away what are you doing today to make an impact for tomorrow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Ask yourself that question and sit in that because you may think of yourself as a simple bookkeeper.

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[SPEAKER_01]: but you have so much to offer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You may think that you are not qualified, you know, to be able to run a non-profit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But guess what?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can be used to be able to do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You have the ability to make an

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[SPEAKER_01]: You have a part to play, and so I think that that would be my encouragement as I want you to walk away like sitting in that and asking yourself that question.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So with that, if this conversation stirred something in you, don't ignore it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Awareness changes little action transforms.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see you next time on Pact with Purpose, where every backpacks tells the story.