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[SPEAKER_03]: Hey guys, welcome back to the A Skin Based Pot.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm your host, Lena, License Estition, and today I have Kristen, Kristen Sanborn, License Estition.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Macy, Macy Taylor, Estetition of Pernas.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And a special guest with us is Ms. Kelsey.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, Kelsey Rhodes, and I am the local SkinBetter Kalmanager.
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[SPEAKER_03]: and I know you guys have heard what skin better is.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We talk about all the time.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's a skincare product line where you can go into it, but today it's going to be an interesting conversation about retinols.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Because I get this question my treatment room all the time, let's get them through retinol, retinoid, retinolic acid, all of it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think maybe the first question would be what is?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was about to get to that Kristen Brown today morning.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, Ms. Lena.
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[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Kelsey, since you are the professional here, we're all professionals.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe she's the grown-up here.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I just say, well, if we are in the years, Kristen, I don't think we want to get in that conversation.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, we don't.
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[SPEAKER_03]: All right, Ms. Kelsey, I want you to tell us the difference between the different retinal retinoid retinoin all that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm as Kelsey, um, do you want to tell us that everything's between the different retinal retinoid retinoin all that?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this is actually one of my favorite subjects.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so when we are talking about the retinal category, retinoids is kind of your broad term.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's going to be your family.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so underneath that family, you have different derivatives of retinoic acid.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, tretenoin is going to be your strongest form of retinoic acid.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It is pure retinoic acid, there's zero conversion needed in the skin.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, because of that, it makes it super, or sorry, it makes it super efficacious, but not very tolerable.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then when you kind of go down the line, the next step would be a retinal to hide.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, retinal to hide's convert once in the skin.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, it makes them a little bit less
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[SPEAKER_01]: efficacious than pure retinoic acid or your treadmillants.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you have retinals, which I feel like that is kind of the term that most people know when we're talking about that retinoid category, retinals actually convert twice in the skin.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So they go from a retinal to a retinal to a retinal to hide back to retinoic acid.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I say, um, this always seems to be the most like hard to understand because like I don't explain it like that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I'll explain the best way possible, which is how Kelsey just did.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So if you are still confused, go back and listen to that again, because that is about the easiest and best way to explain it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's go back and say, why do we need these products?
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[SPEAKER_02]: What did these products do for our skin?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so retinoids or retinols are amazing for anti-aging.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I really call them my reverse ingredient.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to help with cell turnover.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to help stimulate collagen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They can potentially help with pigmentation by sloughing off some of those dead skin cells.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But they're also going to help with fine lanes, wrinkles, and poor size.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So they truly are like that golden ingredient.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Besides sunscreen, when it comes to building a really good skin regimen.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so most of our clients know they've used Trechnoan.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's like the number, if they come to me, that's the number one like product they're on most of the time.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Trechnoan has side effects.
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[SPEAKER_03]: and do you want to tell stuff like that?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, so typically when people on track, you're going to get red, dry, flaky, irritated, and they're just not very tolerable, because while they are super efficacious, you have so much exfoliation being thrown at your skin, because it works outside in, that it's just a really challenging to use prescription tracks.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And here's a good thing!
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[SPEAKER_03]: We have a product that is right now that you can use every day, that doesn't cause those sidefix.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, Schemeter has three, well, four, if you count the peel pads.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We actually have six.
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[SPEAKER_03]: There's six out for our products.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, you got the eye cream.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was thinking of just like, like, fake.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, like the clearing serum offer it, not for it intensive.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's mainly what I was thinking of.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And why is that that is the right and all that you can use every day and not have the irritating side effects that like try to know and gives you but you still get the same results.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so it's all about our proprietary formula.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So the alpha-at technology itself is actually retinoic acid.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So there's zero conversion needed in the skin, but it's double bonded to lactic acid.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it makes up this entirely new molecule, and it actually works where your skin absorbs that molecule and then it slowly unwinds itself and back into retinoic acid, back into lactic acid.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So do you get the benefits of your trot know-in without any of that redness, dryness irritation?
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, and this is my favorite freaking conversation ever, about Alpharet, is the blend, the tri acid blend in it, is my favorite conversation ever, because, uh, so,
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[SPEAKER_03]: Tried no one, that's the one I was looking for, I lost it my brain, right fart, I didn't have a brain fart.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Tried no one's just straight, a retinal, retinoid.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So it doesn't have anything like the acids and that are exfoliating like Alfred does.
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[SPEAKER_03]: This is my favorite thing to educate on is the exfoliation that Alfred gives you is like an actual exfoliation.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's got lactic.
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[SPEAKER_03]: and glycolic.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And so those actually exfoliate this skin.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So you're getting the cellular turnover and the exfoliation to boost that anti-aging.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is why it's my favorite product.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so in that family that you're talking about, so there's within the Alpharette technology family there's six products, but you're going to choose between three when you're building that overnight products.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you have your Alpharette overnight cream, which I feel like is the kind of go to for majority of people, it's actually one of the products can better launch their brand on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And in that product, I like to call it Wonder Woman in a bottle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You guys have probably heard me say, I don't know that in a million times.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But the truly is, it is a five-in-one product.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So not only are you getting your retinomic acidence pierced form in a very tolerable form, but you're also getting your glycolic acid, which is amazing chemical exfoliators.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So within the first few days, people that aren't typically using exfoliating products.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and glycolyx are going to notice their skin just looks a little bit brighter, less dull.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But then you also have a peptide blend in there which is going to help stimulate collagen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You have your antioxidant blend in there to help protect the skin against aging.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you also have your hydration blend in there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's going to help happen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That is also the really cool part about it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: My favorite product, well, that and alto, altos, my favorite product, that educate on.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But Alfred is like my favorite because when they're talking about dark spots, like why don't I just go get it, try it now in.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, girl, it's not gonna exfoliate, like Alfred does.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Exfoliation is what's helping with dark spots, like what's gonna make the most difference.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And then also pairing with a peel pad, that's also my second favorite.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I think that, um, for acne, um, may see, I think you started using out the clearance room for acne.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What do you think about that?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've noticed a huge difference in it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Use it every night and I can already tell all huge difference with it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's my number one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's my favorite product.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I've been slowing a lot of lately.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I think that's what is so nice about opera as you can start at night one and use it every single night with no irritation and so it makes it really easy for patients to be compliant when it comes to doing their skincare and so you are going to get results a little bit faster clearing serum is my go to in the summer time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love her.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She's a little bit different than the overnight cream because she has different acids in there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you have extra lactic, but also the salicylic, which is amazing for blemish-prone skin.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Something that I see is, especially with my friend, no one clients that are older, that they've been using it for 10 years.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I see a lot of pigment issues with them too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think the threat no one does help to exfoliate and help there's fine lines and wrinkles, but I think that it can cause a skin to get so sensitive that it allows some hyperpigmentation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think you get some barrier issues which then can lead to hyperpigmentation and if they're not using a good zinc-based sunscreen, then you're kind of working against yourself when you're using such a strong ingredient.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, sometimes the stronger is not better and I think and I think that, you know, the Alpharet is like the perfect blend.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then if you want a little stronger, you got the Alpharet intensive.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I shouldn't give you more exfoliation because it has that extra glycolic in there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, I mean, I think this kind of answered itself, but who is a good candidate to start on retinol's and retinol's and retinolids?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Literally, anybody, I usually say 20-ish and up because that's typically when we start losing a little bit of collagen and we start the aging process and then obviously anybody that's not pregnant or seeing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I tend to start my, I have my teenagers using the cells or the clearing serum.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It just works so much better and compares like partnered with.
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[SPEAKER_03]: My acne treatments like I said and the last podcast my acne facials have like acne has gotten huge right now I have so many new acne clients and they like they love that clearing term They see so much better results.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Most of them come with to me on threat no one for acne and I'm like Can we start can we try something yeah, can we try something that's got some masala silicon some lactic
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[SPEAKER_03]: And they have seen huge difference with it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think a conversation that we had gotten in before we started recording this podcast was over exfoliation is what's the difference between adequate exfoliation and over exfoliation.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that Lena, I both have seen clients that are lean especially, that are on retinal, then they're on a BHA, then they're on salicylic, then they're on all of the clins or
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[SPEAKER_02]: every step in their skincare routine has some type of exfoliation in it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, how do we protect ourselves, whether we're picking our own skincare or, you know, prescribing a routine, not overexfoliate?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that's where like leaning on you guys as professionals, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: To help people set up the regimen because I think there's almost an over in flux of information now available with like chat to B.T.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And literally everything that people are like, oh my gosh, I need to be using prescription chat because it's the best when for their skin that might not be the best ingredient specifically to use.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And truly, I do think the alpha is superior and from a clinical standpoint.
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[SPEAKER_03]: the most hydration, makes a lot of difference in there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, for our product, but it's also the technology, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so, you know, we can kind of talk about, you know, ingredients and what compared together and what can't pair together.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you talk about the acids over exfoliating formula is key when it comes to being able to combine all of the ingredients.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That skin better did in one product.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because typically, you wouldn't be able to use
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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, a glycolic acid with a retinol, with a vitamin C, those usually are huge no-nose because then you start breaking down the skin barrier, but because skin better has been able to formulate a stable product and it's clinically tested, that is what makes it just a better option than typically your prescription try your retinols.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, I want to get in with you because we've done a lot of training with you is how to start and build a routine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love this question.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I know, right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I love it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: When Kelsey comes to educate, oh my gosh, we have so much fun when she comes to see us.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We're trying to get her to come at least once a year.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I just hang out with nothing else.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But so with, um, skip it our line.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What, what kind of product would you start with?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Would you start with the anti-oxone?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Would you start with the right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I think that's really going to be a patient to patient.
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[SPEAKER_01]: kind of decision, if it's somebody who's coming in for, let's say, just general anti-aging.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My top three products that I always recommend, number one's always gonna be a sunscreen, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: If zinc-based sunscreen, because if you are going to come in in whether you are just doing a couple of facials or you're just coming in for a skincare routine, we've kind of talked about the VIPels and things like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like if you are investing that money, you need to be using a really good zinc-based SPF, because it'll give you the best protection.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My second step is always adding an aratenoid because that's going to help reverse the aging.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love alpharat and then you know, depending on your skin type picking either clearing serum intensive or regular and then my third step is typically a vitamin C which I love our altoid vets because it is more of that multivitamin.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Which I want to get into that in a different podcast because that vitamin C is a different form.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, that is a different, that is a whole new level of product, and that is amazing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're amazing from protecting reversing, and then obviously you get your serious sun protection from Tonsmart lotion, and that's a really good foundation to building a good skin arrangement.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It trippically just general anti-aging.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And once we get correcting and like correcting the skin, that tone smart is literally a foundation for you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like it is.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that the color, the tint in it, I have my clients using it as the primer.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, oh yeah, especially the one in the compact.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They can just put it on and it's it's like a perfect primer.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And your the rest of your makeup just goes so flawless over it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And they're 80 minutes water resistant, which is a game changer when we're talking about pigments specifically.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I have one in my purse and I have a redheaded grandchild that whenever we go out, it goes on his friends.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's all I use on his ears, which is crazy my room with anything.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I love the price tag on the my show, which I don't know, but my kid has, he's red.
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[SPEAKER_03]: He's got red, red hair, he gets very red.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I search he's not my show on him just a little bit on him at night.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And because he's just, he's sensitive skin.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't like all the other baby products.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But I love that stuff.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I also use the skin better sunscreen on him, because that's the only thing it doesn't make him break out.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, he's just sensitive to chemicals.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You put a chemical base sunscreen on him and he'll just, he'll almost cry because it's painful.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so that, that's where baby's got.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's sensitive skin.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's his mama.
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[SPEAKER_03]: but I love, another reason why I love this skincare line.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I know, I don't know if this skincare company will be okay with me putting it on my do-year-old, but I do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, and then to kind of add one more routine in there because you brought my strap and I love my strap.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it is probably one of my favorite products.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of liquid gold for a reason guys.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, it really is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I think for patients who are sensitive.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, this time of year in the Midwest where the weather's all over the place for starting to get more dry.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think even keeping your regimen really simple with my show a sunscreen and either trio or trio.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Lux is my go to for more of that sensitive red rosacea types.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's that's my client base right there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: is you know what the majority of my clients I will put them on my straw, alpha red, tone smart and if they're dry I'll throw them a trio and that's three maybe four products you know that's and those that's you know one step two steps at each
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[SPEAKER_01]: Cleans your face, put the sun, go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they're so multifunctional that it's not, you don't need 17 steps with skin better to get the results.
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[SPEAKER_01]: True.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Which this is crazy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Kristen thought I was crazy when I started doing that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She's crazy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't remember where I saw this.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if it was on the skin by website, or if I saw someone else do it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But my realization of clients, my red clients, I do the my show and the, um, I'll for a clearing serum.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I love that combination.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, okay, and for that example, yeah, it's for sensitive reds, uh, to treat reds, Kristen thought it was crazy, she's like the clearing serum.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I was like, I saw it somewhere, camera where I saw it, but I saw it somewhere, and it works.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I have a couple of clients, it has turned and they're like, like, inflamed acne.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm like, okay, we got to treat the reds to not just the acne.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And Kristen thought it was crazy, but the difference is making my clients.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It is so that clearing serum is not just for acne, it's for that sensitive.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Lena and Macy, they've got the product line down pretty good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So if you want to just come in for a regime and you know, just book a consult to know what products to use at home.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Grab these two girls and they'll set you up on a home care routine.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Because I always learned new things, I think it was actually Kelsey it told me that, but I couldn't remember where I heard it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so that's, there's my go-to for acne.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, Alfred Clearing Serum has like I said Salacilic, Ian Lactic in there, but there's also sink PCA, there's some niacinamide, there's a botanical calming complex.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it is amazing for helping with that red inflamed skin as well.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, all right, um, is there anything I'm, do you guys, is there anything I'm missing?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think I, we pretty much covered it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, the difference is between it, um, if you have questions about what you are using, please call us or come in for your presentation or what type of retinal is in most of your over-the-counter products.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Anything that's going to be over-the-counter is going to be a retinal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it'll be, it'll end with the OL.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That is the product that converts twice in the skin.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So while it's great, it's not the most efficacious product and still it,
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[SPEAKER_01]: most people aren't able to use them every single night.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so if you have a product that's converting twice in your skin, so it's already anywhere from 20 to 200 times weaker than prescription track, you're only using it a couple times a week.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're not doing a lot for your skin, where then you get to your right now the hides.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you're doing a little bit more, but you still have that conversion.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're still usually not very tolerable.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you have your traps.
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[SPEAKER_01]: or your pure retinoic acid and while those are great, again, people still aren't able to do them every single night.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I always joke, it's kind of like not changing your diet and going to the gym once a week.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're probably not going to see a ton of results.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're Al forever at because it is tolerable.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're able to use it night one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're actually equivalent to prescription strength to try to know in and outperformed a 1% retinal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: were able to use it every single day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So now it's like maybe just halfway cleaning up your diet and you're going to the gym every day, you're going to see results so much faster.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and I think it's important to remind our clients too that you know, acclement yourself to it because if that you have never been using a run on you have a lot of damage if you're trying to work with, you know, you can start every other night.
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[SPEAKER_02]: and it's going to tingle maybe a little bit to start out with, but just keep doing it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's kind of like a workout.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You start a new workout and you're going to be so or for a couple days, but just keep doing it and then in 30 days, your skin's going to be a totally different beast.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then it's going to be an every night thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And if it's if it tingles to give you that product at least 30 days, yeah, please just give it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Don't just use it a week.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'd be like, oh, it's not working.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and given it, I tell all my clients like hold on for 30 days, minimum.
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[SPEAKER_03]: to really tell you a new product or before you throw it away.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Would you please don't throw those away in there expensive?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but you bring it back.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We'll see.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'll talk to you back.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, so if you have any more questions about it, come in, do a consult.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and I think real quick, tell us how much to use because we do have clients that buy off on an online store.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so I think it's important that how much to use and how do you apply it?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so with Alpharet specifically, you just need one pump, which I think is really nice because most of our products are doced pumping.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You just need one pump for your face at night, only all of the bottles have whether they are AM or PM use on the back of them if you ever
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then, Alfred, you can also use in your neck and decleté, which is fantastic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you are using in your neck and decleté, I always recommend bumping up to two pumps.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Most of our bottles have about 150 pumps in them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so you know exactly how long your product is going to last.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And they last.
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[SPEAKER_03]: They last.
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[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, Kelsey, thank you so much for hanging out with us today.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Thanks for having me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And we will see you guys next week.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Bye.