Waxing vs Sugaring: What The Comments Got Wrong.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It looks like a gigantic mess.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It looks kind of gross, sorry.

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[SPEAKER_04]: They need to constantly kind of be checking that temperature because the less wax you get in the pot, the more heat that's accumulating.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Anything you're heating up, someone can heat up too much and literally melt theirs.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Welcome back today.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's Kimberse Pond.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm your host Lena license edition.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And today, I have Tanya.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Tanya Williamson, retired special ed parah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And a set of clients, Georgia, Georgia Davenport, License Esthetician.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And Kristen.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Kristen Sandborn, License to Esthetician.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And today is going to be a fun topic to talk about.

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[SPEAKER_04]: This topic has been blowing up on our social media over a couple of videos, reaction videos that we did.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And yes, we are trying to read all of the responses and all the estheticians getting into this conversation.

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[SPEAKER_04]: No, we may not be responding just because I'm a little overwhelmed.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But we're going to be talking about waxing versus sugaring today.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I am going to disclose this as we are not licensed to sugar.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We've never sugared.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We've never, I haven't been sugar'd.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I know people that have, but I am not licensed to do it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is something we've heard.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We've heard and the research we have done, but we are not licensed to do it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So this is kind of our, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I reached out to a couple of sugarists that do do it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So,

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not seeing a huge difference between your way as a waxer, we're going to be biased to waxing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: As a sugarist, you're going to be biased to sugaring.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: As far as we're going to talk about, I think the big question is which ones better and they're both great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're both forms of animals.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be a personal preference.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You're still ripping hair out at the root.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You're essentially doing the same thing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, sugaring, essentially, like I said, I'm not licensed to do it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't care to learn it because when it looks like a gigantic mess, it looks kind of gross, sorry.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The videos I see of all the hair in the hair wall, like I don't care to learn or be licensed to sugar.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But essentially, what is you heat up sugar and Yeah, and it makes like this Almost putty looking Ball and you just use your hand and put it on and this is where it's different is you put it on against the hair grows

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[SPEAKER_02]: and remove with the hair growth, which is different than what's the opposite of waxing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And you pull in like short strokes, not like one long strip, you pull in like short little strokes.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And I have clients that say it's it's painless.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And then I have other clients that say, wow, that was that was a lot more pain.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So I think it's kind of like waxing some people

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[SPEAKER_01]: from what I've heard the application process of sugaring is a lot more painful, but the removal process isn't as painful.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Which I have a lot of time believing because like you're doing like you don't waxing with one long ship at all the lines, but with sugaring you're like putting it and flicking it or I guess you're going up and flicking then you go up and flick to flicking motion.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But regardless, removing hair from the roots can be painful.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: to what I say is you you all watch in the video post some sugary videos that you're doing so that we can kind of see your technique and see what you're doing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Here's where the controversy came in the pain that was a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The next one was

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[SPEAKER_02]: You can't burn someone with sugary.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That was the next one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Say to say you can, anything or heaten up if you have a technician that doesn't know what they're doing or doesn't check your design check.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like video that we got out of traction for for this was a reaction video to someone whaxing with our guys at home.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So they didn't know the proper temperature and to my understanding the exact same thing could happen if someone saw like we all thought it was soft wax originally realized it know that was hard wax like it was very easy to read it really like It literally appeared to the skin and took the skin off but the controversy that happened there was someone but well if she would have sugar that would never happen But it's like if you're still having someone wax at home that doesn't know they're doing can still burn themselves with sugar

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[SPEAKER_03]: the sugar wax.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's warm.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It comes in like, I mean, when you have another wax, it's warm.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So you saw, it comes in like you can.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It kind of get a soft wax can and you put it in a warmer and you warm it to the right temperature, just like wax, you're supposed to get to the right temperature.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You can get it too hot and you can get it too cold.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I think it's a little, it's a little easier to overheat wax than it is sugar.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I think sugar is, you've got to really be not paying attention to overheat it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I must say you can still overheat it, still burn someone still take off skin, wish it were okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Sorry, that you can, especially if someone did want to do it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You can't fight.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my gosh.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And whenever I saw, I was just like,

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're reacting to a video someone doing at home that doesn't have any licensing or they just bought a pot, it was the first time they did it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They just bought a pot, heat up wax was going to wax themselves.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now if they would just bought a pot, bought a wax, bought a wax, bought a wax for herself.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I get it on and I'm gonna show you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We should say no to the video with the girl in the video, more or no.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're just the people in the comments saying that this couldn't happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's like anything can happen if you're not knowledgeable and licensed to do it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Someone could burn themselves a sugar if they don't know what they're doing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Just like someone can burn themselves with wax if they don't know what they're doing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Anything you're heating up, someone could heat up too much and literally melt their skin.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It can happen.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So if you are waxing at home, do you lean a do you and Georgia?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Do you guys recommend using soft wax or hard wax for somebody that's like, well, I'm just going to wax my lip at home or I'm going to just wax my underarms myself.

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[SPEAKER_04]: What do you recommend?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, before you decide to wax yourself watch your watch videos on what your wax needs a little bit before you apply it to your skin, what kind of wax you're trying to wax you're using because soft wax is running hard wax should never be running like that watch videos and like just educate yourself before you really regret what you're doing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is why I won't do sugar.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, I have watched so many videos of sugarist doing legs, bags, chest, Brazilians and like by the time they're done, we need a ball of hair.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Lena doesn't want to play with the ball of your hair.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I will absolutely throw up.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I cannot.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That ball of hair looked so gross.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And they're just sitting there like doing the thing without like, I don't know how y'all are doing that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, if it's full of hair, how does it keep pulling hair out?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I guess taking a point that you have to like throw it away and get a new ball.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I'm guessing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But I would say maybe it's a little bit easier to wax like the underarms in different areas that has circular patterns to the hair.

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[SPEAKER_01]: For sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You sure sugar is please, you know, pipe in on that because I want to know.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Is it easier for for hair that's, you know, not really sitting straight or if it's, you know,

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[SPEAKER_04]: In a circular pattern, like under the arms is the easier to get a cleaner.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Harry, I would also like to know from someone who's been a wax or in a sugar S. I've seen some people say that with sugaring you can get the shorter more stubborn hairs, but then I've also seen like.

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[SPEAKER_02]: people who are getting waxed say that they've done both whenever they've been sugared they've had to go back in with hard waxed to get any of the more stubborn hairs make either way because you know once you hard waxed you still got to clean up and do a thing so I mean I don't know I just think the ball of hair's gross I'm gonna be straightforward here I think the ball of hair is nasty and I that's the only that I just couldn't

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[SPEAKER_02]: Just me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If you're doing it all, please, we're for your gloves, please, we're gloves.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, and I think with the other thing with the gloves is a lot of people are like, well, you're just doing yourself.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You're not, you can have bacteria on your own hands.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And you can transfer bacteria from, you know, you can touch,

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[SPEAKER_04]: the desk or you can touch your sink in your bathroom.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And you never, there may be some type of bacteria in there.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And so you don't want to cause infection whenever you're doing, even sugaring you're opening up those pores.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And so if you're opening up and removing hair and opening up those pores back to here, you can get in.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So you want to make sure that you are being cautious, just be preventative because those are things that can I've seen.

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[SPEAKER_04]: different types of skin, staff, especially, and immersive, different things that have happened just because you've opened that room and you've been introduced that.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So just be careful.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That's why, you know, the gloves, things is important is use your sanitation at home.

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[SPEAKER_04]: If you find

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[SPEAKER_04]: I've trained some of my clients who are like, well, I just can't come in to see you as often as I need to.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Can you show me how to wax my chin hairs at home?

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[SPEAKER_04]: And so I will spend some time and show them how to do that.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And also, not all wax is created equal.

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[SPEAKER_04]: A lot of that, when you're buying a wax off an Amazon or you're buying a wax off of a drugstore.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We have tried so many week professional waxes in shop to figure out which one we want to do.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I feel like we're going to work a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like we're going to work a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like we're going to work a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like we're going to work a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like we're going to work a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like we're going to work a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like we're going to work a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like we're going to work a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like we're going to work a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like we're going to work a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like we're going to work a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like we're going to work a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like we're going to work a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like we're going to work a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like we're going to work a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like we're going to work a little bit

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've never had a client that's had a reaction to a wax.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, everything, not a hypoallergenic, sorry, pregnancy brain, I just forgot what it is.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Lash wax wax, lactose, lactose, lactose, lactose, brain, mesquite, sorry.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to brush your last name, mesquite, mesquite.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's actually, it's really good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I really like it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And who else do you appreciate that when we reach out to you because we have messed up our order or something, that they do get back with us.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And so it was really a customer service.

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[SPEAKER_04]: the quality wax is very important and when you're using hard wax wax that is a little less quality that you will put it on and it will break before you're able to pull it off or it'll dry too fast and that's the other thing is dry time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You have pain in your neck and shoulders don't chase the symptoms come see me Eric Sandborn license massage therapist

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[SPEAKER_00]: My targeted body works will definitely help out with correcting the issue in that neck and shoulders.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We don't go chasing symptoms all over the place.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We just focus in on the area that's needed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My deep tissue work is designed to break up muscle knots and to relieve nerve pain.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We don't use lotions and oils.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We keep the clothing on and we just focus in on the areas that are needed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, book your session.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's get the work.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Always put the wax on your arm or somewhere else do a test button before you put it on your body.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Don't just go straight from a hot pot of wax and stick it on your body because it may be too hot.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And that's what that the reaction video did do is they didn't do a test spot to see how hot it was.

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[SPEAKER_04]: They just pulled it right out of the pot, stuck it on and then it would then realize, oh my gosh, what did I do?

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[SPEAKER_04]: And then you're kind of stuck.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You either go grab the baby oil and throw the baby oil on and try to get off that away or you just got a pull.

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[SPEAKER_02]: At that point it's like you stick some oil on there and pray.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I see both of you and Georgia, they do my waxing and they both have asked me when they put it on.

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[SPEAKER_03]: How's the temperature?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Is it too hot?

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean is it, you know, or whatever?

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I always like, no, it's fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we're in retesian on our self first and we know what the consistency is supposed to look like, but you don't

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[SPEAKER_04]: And so I think that's where the temperature we're that discussion with, with sugaring versus whaxing is with sugaring.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You have the practitioner has that sugar in their hand.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So they can feel the temperature of that ball of sugar before they put it on you.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And so yes, there may be less likelihood of burning because of the constant contact with that product.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Then if you're doing wax in your practitioner or your waxer does not know how to hold that the consistency of what that wax should look like before they apply it to someone so yes those of you that said that sugaring you may have a less likely to burn someone with sugar right slightly but not saying it's not it's not yeah it's not possible and so if you're practitioner your waxer is not.

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[SPEAKER_04]: testing that wax on themselves or something before they put it on you because that wax can fluctuate in temperature as they're pulling more wax out of that pot doing like a full legs or something.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Then they need to constantly kind of be checking that temperature because it's the less wax you get in the pot, the more heat that's accumulating.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And so that's just something that if your wax will be cautious about.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, I mean, as far as what wax to use, which is so funny because my clients are like, my cell was like, we turn the AC on, but I have my winter mix in there, like the amount I put in when we have the heat going.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And they're like, that really makes a difference.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, you use some research on humidity and environment, you see what your wax, like what wax you choose is best for.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And for you at home, people too, here's a little tip, is put by me powder down first.

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[SPEAKER_04]: If you cannot reach up and pinch and pull that hair, it is not long enough.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Don't do it at home.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You gotta let that hair grow out to where it's long enough so that either sugar or waxing can pull it up.

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[SPEAKER_04]: If you're waxing, place a little baby powder to protect your skin.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Do a little research before.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So watch some videos.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Say, I wouldn't have any idea what to do to myself at home.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Nor would I try.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't care how many videos I would watch.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think I would have the guts to do it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I even, and I don't know how to do it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I know I'd mess up or hurt myself first.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Then I can you fix my problem.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Do some research, watch some videos if you're going to do it at home.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Watch some videos on wax consistency.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Did you have a client once that tried to wax at home and couldn't pull?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't have to tell you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, it's stuck.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I can't do it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm working and I get a call from a friend who's like, Gloria work.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I need help.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's like what do you mean you need help?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I've been, I'm like in appointment.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I got like six calls in a row.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, oh, is everything okay?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I just like, no, I need you to come help me get the wax off.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, well, I'm working.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's no way, like can you get to me?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And she shows up, she's trying to give herself a Brazilian, don't know how she drove, but it really came in.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I had to pull the wax up, I was like, girl, what are we doing here?

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[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't get on there for so long.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that would be a big deal for me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You just put wax on the top of it and then go.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, so less than I was.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was going to drive here.

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[SPEAKER_04]: If you're going to try to do body waxing at home, especially in those areas, lay your strips small to start out with.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Don't try to lay like the professions do where you go from the top all the way to the bottom and then expect to be able to pull it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I can't even pull my up.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Do some extra.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was in training wax at home, but I have to have

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I do have to say, no, same, even as a waxer, like, it's a mental thing, like, I know what I'm going to do.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I have the muscle memory to just flick off, like, just get done.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But when it comes to doing myself, my hands start shaking.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Or I'm like, kind of like, three, two, and then I'm like, no.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I like barely do it, and then I'm like slowly ripping it off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, I have to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I call in some assistance when I do that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like when I'm working myself, call, it's got to be there to help me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He gets the he gets the The flicking Probably takes it so serious.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah, it's like being in every spray tan.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's so funny Because he's watched me like after I do it like I stay here and to yes, too Yes, and I watch

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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh gosh, I don't know if you guys should have taught your husband how to wax or not.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I know that even Kelsey, her husband's disappointed because now since she's doing spray tans at the shop, that he doesn't get to spray tans anymore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I know, Pam is upset that he doesn't get to spray tans anymore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If I ever come home with a spray tans, he's like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: You didn't trust me, like I couldn't do it, and I'm like, I mean, you mean, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That's like these guys are married to estheticians.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, I think I hopefully we've answered this question for those of you that were actually not way off topic.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We did get off topic.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That was pretty good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Please.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Both of them remove the hair at the root.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Both of them are going to give you longer results than shaving.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now just try them both and see what you like.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, try them both.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Go to a reputable practitioner, a waxer that knows what they're doing.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Anybody can, if you're doing this at home, you know, either way, they, you can get your wax too hot at home.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So just go to a professional, let them do it for you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And no hair removal from the root is painless.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, it's going to hurt great.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you're going to feel.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We just want to keep it as safe as possible.

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[SPEAKER_04]: There's no right around.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So put your videos of sugaring in the comments.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We'll try to see them.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We'll see you next time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, thank y'all for hanging out with me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Thank y'all for hanging out with us.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And we'll see you all next week.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Bye.