What Is PDRN? Estheticians Explain The Skincare Ingredient

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[SPEAKER_01]: PDRN is a fragment of salmon DNA.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It technically comes from like salmon sperm.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're like, and that's going on my face.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's like sure is, we're gonna love it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's not necessarily a skin issue.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a barrier issue.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so that's where ingredients like PDRN, peptides, things like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If we can fix the barrier, then we can address the additional concerns.

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[SPEAKER_01]: In the United States.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Injecting, PDRN is technically illegal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not FDA approved.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that there's some products out there that can be insinuated to be injected.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Hey guys, welcome back to A Skin Based Pot.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm your host Lina, Licenses Estition, and today I have Georgia Georgia Davenport Licenses Estition.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Shelby, Shelby Eres, Cosmontologistol, and Kelsey.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And today we're going to talk about some of the pretty big buzzword on Instagram.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Kelsey's kind of our expert on it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to talk about PDRN and what is it?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to like, kill, start this one out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: PDRN is technically a acronym or short for polydeoxy ribonucleotides.

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[SPEAKER_01]: PDRN is a fragment of salmon DNA.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It technically comes from like salmon sperm, but it's not like you're putting salmon sperm on.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to tell you what, tell a client that you're putting salmon sperm on their skin because we were just talking about this before, like two years ago when PDRN really like hit the scene.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's probably been there earlier, but like,

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[SPEAKER_02]: when it started getting smaller.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's what we started getting like boosters that were pdr and yeah for boosters at that time it was like we were told it was salmon sperm.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so when we would tell our clients that that's what it is because like what is it?

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like well technically salmon sperm like and that's going on my face as I sure as you're gonna love it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's so much more than that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It does come from salmon sperm and it's so regenerative because just like when we were talking about exosomes a while ago, where they are like the pierist, rawst form, they're the youngest version.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's essentially what the salmon sperm DNA is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And but it's gone through an entire purification process and it's only a fragment of the salmon sperm.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Also, I do have a question because I was wondering this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If you have a client with a fish allergy,

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[SPEAKER_02]: It definitely is something that you'd probably have to pass the test side on their caution.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so another thing you don't think about telling your institution, if you have an allergy to fish, that's really good for us to know that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, people don't think about like fruits and fish and like stuff that you eat, how it can affect your food and the treatment room.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Pineapple is that way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, a lot like there's a lot of people that have like pineapple allergies.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we have so many amazing like enzyme masks and stuff like it is super important.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Did I have to know the alpha gal and like I we might have to do a whole episode on allergies because alpha gal is a whole thing too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So now we know what PDRN is, where it comes from, let's talk about what it does like, why do we put it on the skin?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So PDR ends becoming so popular because it's so regenerative, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I feel like we were just talking about this earlier regenerative skincare is such a hot buzzword in the industry and it's been around forever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think a lot of the age groups that are starting to come to medical

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[SPEAKER_01]: what the damage that they've done, that used to be the case because as the aesthetics industry grew, it was the older client, how coming in saying, oh my gosh, I have browns, I have all of these deep wrinkles.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They just didn't do a good job of preventative skincare, but as the aesthetics industry has truly become a little bit less cliche.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You have a younger generation of clientele coming in that says, I love my skin.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How do I protect it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: How do I age gracefully?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, right in the group.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think that's where regenerated like that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That term aging backwards.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Mm.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not really that we turn back time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's more of we slow the clock.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I guess that's why I think of it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I haven't been on Instagram way too much.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I've had way too much time because I've been sitting in bed a lot.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That was a problem.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I've been a hotter than heck outside.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm getting a little big.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to be out in the heat.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I've been scrolling Instagram way too much in that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was actually a topic that came up and I was like, you know what, you were so right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Because in our clients come with these unrealistic expectations of literally turning the clock back and it's like,

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're not talking about, we're not going to make you look 10 years younger, but we can kind of like slow down the aging process a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and that's exactly what regenerative skin care is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Regenerative skin care truly is basically trying to bring things back to 100% function like they were when they were younger.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I do think that that is a little bit of a cliche.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I actually saw another regenerative wrap talking about this the other day that

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[SPEAKER_01]: that is such a buzzword.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like they're truly is no 100% regenerative product out there because like you said, you're not going to take somebody that is 60 and make them look like they're 30, but there are so many ingredients in the skincare space now that have regenerative.

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[SPEAKER_01]: properties.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so just like exosomes, PDRN is going to be a little messenger.

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[SPEAKER_01]: In the skin, telling your body to function more normally, but where exosomes are amazing for some people, PDRN just functions better.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we know certain ingredients work better for other people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And with PDRN, it does give such a consistent result that I think that's why people are all about it right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, do they inject PDRN or is it actually love that question?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So in the United States injecting PDRN is technically illegal, it's not FDA approved.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that there's some products out there that can be insinuated to be injected, but it is definitely off label in the U.S.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, anywhere else is that allowed?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So in, well, I believe it is in Europe and in Korea, they actually do a Japanese pdr and I'm going to say this one time one time only.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Korea is in a whole other level when it comes to skincare.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And even Europe, like European skincare standards, like night and day different.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And like there are some Korean skincare products.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just like, man, yeah, they're not really doing nothing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But there are some Korean skincare.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, yes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I feel like there's delivery systems.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Trendy and there are like likeliness of like some products that aren't necessarily the best, but there's also true good quality.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's like, I mean, it's like US products, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it all comes down to like the science, the ingredients, the quality of the ingredients, it's the best.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I want to do an episodes and time on delivery systems.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's huge.

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[SPEAKER_02]: How your skincare delivers into your skin is a big deal of your skincare is going to work or not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the delivery system, but like even going back to like injecting PDRN.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So like PDRN is really great for anti-inflammation, hydration, redness, barrier protection, which I think this time of year, especially in the Midwest as we start going from like really hot and humid back to like colder

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Or just people that have done how many times we talked about tick-tox skin care trends right and have just absolutely wrecked their barrier.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so they come in with acne, with redness, with dry skin, with oily skin, and it's not necessarily a skin issue.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a barrier issue.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so that's where like ingredients like pdrn, peptides, things like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If we can fix the barrier, then we can address the additional concerns.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so, and we just kind of compared that, but like PDRN versus other, we're juventive ingredients, but more on like, PDRN versus like rednoids.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Go factors and nothing when you talk about some day, because I really want to get into that one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Peptides, where you talk about exosomes, like that kind of stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So this is just going to be in addition to those like they're not going to necessarily replace that product.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, do you need to have a 17 step skincare regimen to reach your goal?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Kelsey does.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh-huh.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Dude, dude, dude, dude, dude.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Shout out to the PDRM products that I'm using right now because you guys, I have cut my regimen back to five.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I guess it's just about a future.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Literally 17 from now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Those products are all still sitting in my bathroom.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I have come here to my back to about five products, which is like insane.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I feel like my skin has truly never looked better.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think it's because I've corrected so many of my barrier issues.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So PDRN is a great ingredient.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that comes down to the skincare consultations, which is why love having patients come in and book consultations with us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When they're like, hey, I think I want XYZ

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, my skin's dry, my skin's irritated, et cetera, and putting everybody on a custom regiment, because it's not a one-size-fits-all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, we still need retinol.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Retinol is actually going to be correct.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It is going to stimulate collagen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to help sluff off the dead skin.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You still need potentially growth factors in there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: In vitamin C, it's going to help protect.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But those are all corrective.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And directly, they should all work together.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, and I have a lot of clients that come in and say, well, I have super sensitive skin.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't put anything on my skin.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's not actually their skin.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just their barrier.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So once we get their barrier to a healthier place, then we can get them on a regiment that works for them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's going to help their skincare ingredients work better.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And even the treatments that they're getting work better, because if you have a protected barrier, everything else is going to function so much better.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you're going to get results so much quicker, too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: and the skin type you think you do have is actually the skin type you actually have.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, a disrupted barrier causes a whole domino effect to everything else.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're clients say I can't tolerate retinal maybe because you got recommendation off TikTok and that worked for them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, long retinal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The wrong formulation.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There you have two high of a percentage.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe you need to pair that with something else to kind of support it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Or they're pairing ingredients together that don't go together.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Or like vitamin, using retina.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Or use vitamin C at the same time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like you're going to try to avoid it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That one is huge in my treatment room.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Using ingredients at the wrong time of the day.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely and like if you just ask like when I ask you what you're using you know let's let's talk about like your whole regimen when you do it with just what's on your counter yep yeah but also the quality like I feel like there's a lot of PDRN products that are really popular on TikTok and so I'm gonna be right now

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[SPEAKER_01]: and I've tried one and as much as I wanted the glass skin look from this particular product.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was sticky.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It absolutely wrecked my skin.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I would pull it off my skin looked great for about 20 minutes and it was that mass that like you leave on for like two hours and the line is like clear.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I was bought that because I wanted to try.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, I am pregnant.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So my skin is so dry.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm stuck in the life out of me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm about bought that to try it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I did because I was like, okay, I just want to see what all the hype's about.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I only have got to wipe that shine off because it does look like just oil.

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[SPEAKER_03]: it was just like I had I don't even know how to explain it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It has to be video purposes only.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The first 10-15 minutes my skin looked amazing but it caused my rosacea to flare so bad and I kind of was like okay maybe I can't use PDRN and then I try to different PDRN masks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, oh, it definitely comes down to the ingredients, the fillers that they're using just like medical grade skincare, night and day difference with the quality of the PDRN that you're using, too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The one product that I will shout out from TikTok is Dr. Malach some Peel Shot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Juck!

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, if you have been on my TikTok follow this podcast for a minute, you know, I have a personal rivalry with Dr.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Relaxing Peel Shot and people say, oh, look, it's look at the pain.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's coming.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's my skin coming off.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, it's the freaking rice water.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Falling up, it's not your skin exfoliating.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I have a client that comes in.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She goes, I do the Dr. and Lachs and Peel Shot twice a week.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You're not exfoliated.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't do that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's exfoliating itself.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like the product itself.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The ingredients alone are just like, they make their skin soft because it's rice water and stuff and it's like, you're not exfoliating.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So don't try to stay on your skin.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm trying to save my water from the rice I made last night.

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[SPEAKER_02]: See, I don't know how to make rice flour on my skin.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I put rice flour on my hair.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I call it something about the other day.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I'm a scalp.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Because I was summer at my scalp.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I got to look for that one too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Whoops.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, okay, let's go back to the thing, but that's my shout out for that it not shout out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Thumbs down for the day.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Kyle, if I have to call out, yes, I have to call out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have to call out, because those are the ones that just, that's how it gets so popular.

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[SPEAKER_01]: them sound, especially for as they should people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I've heard it from like multi do some reactions stuff.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We need to buy it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Take toxic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's stuff like that that people will do reviews on on take talk, but like you know, but like Kelsey said, she said the first 20 minutes after I took the mask off my skin looked great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's all people are reporting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, not recording after the training the camera off.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Anything up with that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It was so sticky.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It was just like, I felt like it was sugar water on my face, like that's it because it was sticky.

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[SPEAKER_03]: My hair was sticking.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I, you know, my cat jumped up on me and then I had cat hair stuck to my face and then after the shininess went away, it was just like,

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[SPEAKER_03]: I felt like a cracked porcelain doll.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, there was no, I was like, layer, I saw that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I saw that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I saw that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was gonna buy one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I have one in all of that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You tried because I used it twice.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I was like, I've never used it again.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm having enough issues as it is.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to do that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: If Shelby's face reacted like that, you definitely don't want to try it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my gosh.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So who?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I guess we kind of covered this, but who would be the best interest in PDR in?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like what type of client would be the best person to like, hey, I'm at a serum with PDR in or hey, let's micro needle PDR in.

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[SPEAKER_02]: in my opinion, almost everyone.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I do, I mean, I do think everybody, I think that there's a lot of boosters out there now that aren't just PDR and boosters.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So like there's a couple that I've been playing within trying out and one of them has PDR and plus GHKCU in there, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so,

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[SPEAKER_01]: that copper peptide gorgeous for like rebuilding.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I would say anybody that's looking for barrier support that glass skin.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of boosters out there that have like a scorbic acid in PDRN plus some plant derived exosomes and additional ingredients in there that are just going to help with pigmentation fine lines wrinkles.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like

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[SPEAKER_01]: I do think truly anybody could use PDRN.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just going to be which booster's best for them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I say, I did, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I'm not a misganker company, but that's missed with the PDRN.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And the hypercourse acid has been a lifesaver this time room.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I do love that soothing mast.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I love it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I swear my face like 10 times a day.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, if you'll catch me in my downtime, I'm just like literally spray.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, my car, but it's weird.

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[SPEAKER_02]: As I'm driving, because my skin is so dry, I have tried, I've done so.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Too on it, I have done.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I haven't done the hydrophacial.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, I mean, I am doing... Can you use the boosting serum yet that I gave you?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I did.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I actually love the cream in the serum.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I love it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I only had the packets.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to steal mom's bottles because I love them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You should.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that is right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm literally layering, alto, and bra.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm about to switch to trio looks because I'm like so August.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I guess it's September now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It is September.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You're getting married in a couple weeks next week.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my goodness.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Couple days.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Countdowns on.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then the soothing mist.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I have that that's my skin care.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I do that every single thing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm still my skin is still dull and dry.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I feel like this child is sucking every ounce of life for me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Lovely.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Love the soothing mist.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love hypercloris acid though.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it has exesomes and peptides.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I also can do that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm not because I saw something.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm gonna do an episode on that one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, well, I think that's about it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that was a really good deep dive of PDRN.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot of good education, out there on social media, but I also, when I was doing some research, there's a lot of stuff that seemed, you just really need to talk to like a licensed ascetician.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And a lot of times if there's a little orange shopping car underneath someone's video.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, oh, hey, men.

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[SPEAKER_02]: even sometimes if they you're looking at someone's are paid ad or now like blue check marks for people like skin therapist I mean anybody can pay for a blue check mark.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So pay for a blue check mark mark mark is talking about a pdr in for them or something you know that's not always why we'll say literally paid for that blue check mark.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're not just not saying they can be no but just but there's one that comes to mind.

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[SPEAKER_02]: information that was a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Just don't automatically trust me because go to your go to a license edition.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Go sit down in a treatment room and talk to an estition about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, alright well thank you guys for hanging out with me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you all for hanging out with us and we'll see you all next week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Bye!