Why Your Back Tension Won’t Go Away (And How We Fix It)

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, literally the other day, someone walked in there very hunched over and I saw them walking back out, straight back up, whereas if you come out of a size with me, you're just gonna be tired.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Muscle knots are basically torn muscle fibers that have grown back together healed improperly.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So they have scar tissue, like the gas, it's stuff like that built up in them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If we actually go to arrogance, they are, if we need to work done, we...

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't have never tried shoes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, you know, we're hurting really bad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then we can find the whole time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Welcome back to a skin-based pod.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm your host, Lena, licensed esthetician.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And today, I have Kristen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Kristen Sandborn, licensed esthetician.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my gosh, I knew it was a roller coaster.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You all are refreshing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know my name.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She took me out.

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[SPEAKER_04]: She took me out.

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[SPEAKER_04]: She took me out.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Georgia?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Georgia, Davenport, licensed esthetician.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And Mr. Eric.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Eric Sandborn, licensed massage therapist.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And today, we're going to be all about massage.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think we're going to talk about the specific type of massage

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[SPEAKER_00]: and Cassidy at the Medzba offer because it's three very different types of massage.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You have pain in your neck and shoulders.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Don't chase the symptoms.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Come see me, Eric Sandborn, licensed massage therapist.

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[SPEAKER_04]: My target of body works will definitely help out with correcting the issue in that neck and shoulders.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We don't go chasing symptoms all over the place.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We just focus in on the area that's needed.

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[SPEAKER_04]: My deep tissue work is designed to break up

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[SPEAKER_04]: We don't use lotions and oils, we keep the clothing on and we just focus in on the areas that are needed.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So book your session.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Let's get the work.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Link is in description.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What's the difference between the three massages?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Because we have a high-casty on the podcast yet.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Cassie's very shy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She doesn't want to come on board.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're hoping to talk for him to it soon.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But you all do three different types of massages.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Which do you explain those to us?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, there's actually a lot of different massages involved with it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But we have the Swedish massages, which Cassidy and both Georgia do.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That's just your relaxing massage.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Most people, they fall asleep.

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[SPEAKER_04]: good for the soul.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It's good for just relaxation purposes.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And the Cassidy, she does more of a therapeutic massage also.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And that's where you're getting into deep tissue, my official release.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I guess sports massage.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Kind of like sports massage.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I know that mine.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yep, sports massage stretching is involved with it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: She does some cupping.

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[SPEAKER_04]: She she can do hot stones.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Also learning

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah, I do have to my horse.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, it's a good, you don't bite your horse, too, do you?

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, I have a big, facial scraper that I do on my horses on their necks and their back and their hips.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's actually good.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We've got a couple scraping tools there at the shop, and then there's what I do when I call Target a Body Works, which is basically, I focus in on areas that look.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It does, that it hurts.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It does not feel good.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Most, most my clients say it's that hurts so good feeling.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I do not call it that.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Now, between you and Kristin, both of you don't like it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, if we actually go to Eric and say, Eric, we need some work done.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We have never tried.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, you know, we're hurting really bad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then we can find the whole time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I know.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That's too much.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That's too much.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's her too much.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But what if you're going to do this, please don't make effort.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So what's going on with the muscle when you are working on it, Eric?

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[SPEAKER_04]: So generally when I see my clients, they have some kind of nodding going on muscle spasms things that they can't seem to get under control themselves.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And so I go in there and I help control the muscle spasms, reduce them down to where they're manageable, break up the knots, muscle knots are basically torn muscle fibers that have grown back together healed improperly.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So they have scar tissue, like the gas, it's stuff like that built up in them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: One success case I want to talk about is she came in and had such a hard time walking my time she was done.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think two years later she was walking like upright like she was walking really great walking again.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I can't think of the name.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I don't think I can say her name anyway, but what Eric does really does work.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like we have seen people really.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, like the other day someone walked in there very hunched over and I saw them walking back out straight back up.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Whereas if you come out of massage with me, you're just going to be tired.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's really, really, really, really, really.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So what are some of the things that you can target?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, migraines, can you target arthritis, can you target nerve pain?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, pretty much all that.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Migraines, I've had a lot of success with migraines.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Just helping individuals getting off of migraine medicines.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Most migraines are muscular, they're not chemical.

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[SPEAKER_04]: If you do have a chemical migraine, it's not anything that I can help with.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Other than maybe helping relax that muscle down.

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[SPEAKER_04]: muscle migraine, so we can help with that.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Had lots of good success with that.

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[SPEAKER_04]: There's arthritis, that's something I can't do anything about arthritis because that's in the joint.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But I can help with the muscles that are around it because usually when you have arthritis, you're changing the way you're moving.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so those are compensations.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Overcompensation, changing the way you walk and all that.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So when you start changing how your body operates, the muscles have to try to adjust and they don't like that because they've had so many years of doing the same thing over and over again.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And so when you start changing it, they tend to spasm and pro-fits.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's where you end up with muscle mods and... What's that whenever you have muscle pain like from your hip that is?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Setic nerves.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Setic nerves.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That's a big one too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I have when I walk, like I can't walk straight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like sit when I sit and do lashes all day long.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I get up and it's like, oh, that doesn't work anymore.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Kristen says she has a hitch in her giddy-up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I get a hitch in my giddy-up.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, this attic nerve, it's the longest one in our body.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It's got all sorts of problems, because it runs from L4L5 all the way down to your toes.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And so there's a lot of muscle in there that can get bound up around it, get some nerve impact, and it can cause all sorts of pain all the way down to the bone.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, let's talk a little bit about the muscle at home.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Something that Cassidy does, which is cupping.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What is cupping?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Why do we even want to do cupping?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because you look like you had an octopus attacking you whenever you get out of love it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, so I'm not a cupping expert, but from what I do know of cupping, it helps to lift the skin and pull inflammation out of muscles.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that darker the bruise, the more inflammation.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And like, when I started my company, my first, my first set of bruises were so dark, they stayed for like two, three weeks.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then by most recent session, which I need to get back in with her, my bruises were gone in the week, like they were not even.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the first time I saw cupping was during the Olympics, the swimmers,

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you see all the swimmers, I mean, it looked like that got attacked by an octopus, but that's what that is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's cupping.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's releasing those some of that inflammation that they have from, you know, the previous days, competitions.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so if you were wondering what that is or what cupping looks like, that's what it looks like.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I like the cupping because you can literally like see your progress with it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's interesting.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't know that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the deeper the bruise.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the darker the bruise and longer it stays, the more inflammation makes sense though.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That they're able to release.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And that's the same thing with Greston too, the scraping that she's going to learn the deeper the bruise, the more inflammation was in that muscle.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So it gets better over time.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Greston is not a fun thing to do.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It hurts.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But it does release a lot of the muscle tissue, the myelfascial tissue that gets bound stuck in there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And sometimes it's kind of, I know that whenever I have several clients that I work on that we do lymphatic drainage.

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[SPEAKER_00]: With that lymphatic drainage, we're also working on the back of the neck and some of the top of the shoulders.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And when I'm running my thumb down, almost feels like you're running your thumb down a gravel road.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and then the more that you keep working those little bubbles out and those little knots out then it's more relief that you give so you know that's that's kind of what it feels like is it feels those muscles don't feel like a gravel road or a big hole.

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[SPEAKER_00]: in that gravel road, if you're wondering if it's a muscle, not, or if you need to go see a car tractor, that's one of the signs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I know that we, we've got some cool stuff coming up because a lot of the questions.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think we'll see more of Mr. Eric next month too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're going to see a lot more of Mr. Eric next month, but I think two things that work really well together

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so we are going to jump into that in May, and we are going to talk about chiropractic and massage how they work together, how they complement each other, and all that we're excited about, May's shows.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, Mr. Eric, thank you so much for hanging out with us today and sharing your knowledge on massage and muscles and all that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mr. Eric is back in the office pretty much full time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So if you want to call him, call the office and then you can ask him all kinds of questions that you want to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm looking forward to seeing you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm looking forward to seeing you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Or you can drop me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, drop by.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I love to talk to people.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So come on by any time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you can call him, Mr. Eric, because that's what everybody calls him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's his name.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's his name.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That's my name.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Alright y'all, thank y'all for ain't out with me today, thank y'all for ain't out with us, and we'll see y'all next week.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Bye.