I'm Breaking Up With ChatGPT

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[SPEAKER_01]: Chad GPT was my friend and now it's acting like that ex girlfriend that was just part of your friend group and all you do is hear about her but you know what she's actually all about so do you go and destroy her reputation and share the truth or are you playing nice in a way that doesn't really help anyone actually.

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[SPEAKER_01]: think about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So then you actually do have a moral obligation to share it with those who could be impacted.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But then you don't want to sing crazy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I don't know where to go from there, but this is actually kind of like Ted GPT right now for me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, what's up?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yo!

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[SPEAKER_01]: Dang it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yo, what is up everybody?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome back to another episode of the more than me see eye podcast where we talk about what's behind a person, a practice, or a product, especially when it comes to marketing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm Jared Taylor and I've got my water this time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now back to the show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So really it's a product.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're looking at what's behind this product.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and the behaviors.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And can we trust chat GPT anymore?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Time and time after again, I'm finding out the answer to Longden Raid is no.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let me paint a scenario for you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I got receipts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My wife and I were talking about a movie, and we were wondering where this quote came from, which actually, spoiler alert, we still don't know to this day where it came from.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So let us know in the comments where you think it's from.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Here's what we wrote in the chat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is there a line in Master of Disguise that says, do you need a hand with that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then someone else says,

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[SPEAKER_01]: No thanks, I already have two.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, so we were trying to figure out where this came from.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We swear we were watching it the other day, and we both agree that this is exactly what the quote was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was picturing something like someone with a briefcase or traveling or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I was picturing, but here's what ChatGPT said when we asked that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It said, yes, there is a joke very close to that in the master of disguise, but it's not exactly word of the way you quoted.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It should not say the word yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of just showing that it's already line.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's saying, the gag you're thinking of happens when Dana Carvey, the pistachio disguisi, is in disguise with multiple arms.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Someone offers help along the lines of need of hand.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the joke lands because he literally has extra arms, leading to a punchline like, no, already have more than two.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it gives you like those checkbox things that's not really needed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: At least it kind of admitted that this...

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[SPEAKER_01]: does not exist word for word.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But by saying yes, it can easily be overlooked by the reader.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's one of those classical literal idiom jokes that movies lean in on a lot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you want, I can track down the exact wording or line or clip it more precisely.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So then, since it asks that, she said, clip, please.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then it says, here's a clip compilation of the master of the skies.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't isolate only the multiple arms joke, but it includes several disguised gags from the movie, including the kind of visual humor that scene uses.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So when you look at it and even when it just said, it's like the defeats the whole purpose of our question in the first place.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We wanted to know, was this in the movie or not?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's basically saying,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, it's in the movie, but really it's not in the movie and then it says there's something about multiple arms and I don't remember that in the movie at all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Was that even in the movie?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just like making up a new scenario.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then we said show me the multiple arms disguise.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it should link to something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't even have to like draw the picture or whatever it does.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then it said, here's a clip from Master of Disguise that shows the kind of rapid fire disguised gags.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's including the exaggerated body prop transformations like the multi arm.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then it showed it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then it said, if you're watching the video, you can see what it says.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It gives it link to it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then it says, heads up, the exact multiple arms moment is pretty obscure online.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And often only appears briefly within completions or the full moody.

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[SPEAKER_01]: rather than as a clean stand-along clip.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The gag is very quick, more of a visual throwaway than a full scene, which is why it's hard to find isolated.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you want, I can keep digging.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Basically it's saying I can't find what I said was in there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this says, I found a YouTube click.

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[SPEAKER_01]: that's closest to the available source, and then it says the multi-arm bit is one of those very quick visual throwaways inside sequences.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It said, watch closely during the fast disguised transitions, the multiple arms disguised up here is very briefly known as a fully standalone.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's why it's so hard to find a clean and I still like it why does it stock on that and then we said okay, where's that exact time stamp because it's public knowledge to go and find the time stamp in a YouTube video or in a movie

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[SPEAKER_01]: finding the exact transcript of the movie or the subtitles that are tied to the SMPTE or whatever protocol.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it said, I dug pretty deep here and here's the honest answer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There is no publicly documented exact timestamp for the multiple arms disguise gag.

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[SPEAKER_01]: from transcripts or reliable scene breakdowns.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They available transcripts, don't even list that moment, which usually means it's a very quick visual gag and likely part of the fast monta.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So now we're like, does that part even real?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it just feels so hard to trust.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's like, hey, if you want, I can blah, blah, and they're trying to keep you in the app.

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[SPEAKER_01]: more.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So now it always asks follow up questions, which is usually good, but it's like I didn't solve the first thing first.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the follow up, if it's not helping towards the first thing, then why do it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I found that it was doing this over and over and over and over on a lot of my stuff too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We decided to take the exact same prompt, which was spelled wrong, like there's two words that were combined in one word.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I took the exact prompt.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And

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[SPEAKER_01]: and I put it into Gemini.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is there a line in Master Disguise that says, do you need a hand with that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No things already have to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I selected the Pro version of Gemini and it said that specific exchange doesn't actually appear in the Master of Disguise.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a good like up front answer, you know, it's not saying yes or no right away.

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[SPEAKER_01]: While the movie is packed with puns and physical comedy, like the turtle club scene or pistachio talking to his own hand, the already have two joke isn't one of them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It sounds like you might be thinking of a classic dad joke or a scene from another slapstick comedy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Variations of that joke appear in several places, and it said it was from the Goonies or the Adams family or classic sitcoms, which I'm surprised it didn't come up with young Frankenstein because that's what we're finding when we Google search it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But we didn't watch the young Frankenstein, we didn't watch the Goonies, we didn't watch the Adams family.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It says, in the master disguise, the hand humor usually involves pistachio making a talking gesture with his hand and saying, to the villain, this is what you're doing, this is what I want you to do, any question, you know, like, I get it cool, like it's now it's just talking about other things, but then I was like, wait, we watched the pink panther recently, was it in the pink panther movies?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It really seems like a joke that Steve Martin would say.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So still on Jim and I asked and it said that like, yeah, it would show up in something like

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[SPEAKER_01]: The naked gun, which is a different person, classic cartoons, and it says, this is something Inspector Clueso would bumble, but it's not in the movie.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The exchange we're thinking of is actually a very old style joke that has popped up in a few different places.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So then it's saying, no, there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so now we're just going on this rabbit trail of like, where do we watch this?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Where does this quote come from?

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[SPEAKER_01]: But the point being, Jim and I gave me a better answer, a better response, and usually they have those links of where they sourced it from.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I really like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what happened to that on chat, GPT.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like it used to be there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't really see it much anymore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I asked this in Claude as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It just says, that specific exchange doesn't appear to be from Master of Disguise.

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[SPEAKER_01]: After checking IMDB, the full transcript and multiple quote databases, there is no record of, do you need a hand with that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No things already have, too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I said, is it from Pink Panther with Steve Martin?

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[SPEAKER_01]: This doesn't appear to be in that film either.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That line doesn't show up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's basically a green with everything Jim and I found too and I said we were watching a movie for sure when we saw this and that quote Do you remember any other details about it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what it was asking me and I was like, well, I thought it was Steve Martin my wife thought it was mashed for it Just guys and it's like no, it's not those and I said can you dig deeper like also maybe we are off by a few words Just in case it's taken it literally

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like maybe he doesn't say no thanks or something else.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then it comes up with some other movies, but it's definitely not the one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, wait, we're watching Anna Konda, the newer one recently, is it that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, it wasn't that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So basically, we were left without an answer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But the reason I'm bringing this up and showing all this is because I'm finding time and time again, that chanting PT is not really reliable, especially when it comes to questions and facts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there was another experience I've had where chat to B.T.

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[SPEAKER_01]: was just kind of either convoluted or like super echo chambery to please you, and it just wants to affirm you, it wants you to feel good and feel right, but it's not necessarily correct, because facts don't care about what you think, and they don't care about your feeling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Facts are just facts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I had a good experience with Jim and I asking this question and a good experience with Claude asking this question, they feel a little more trustworthy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't go through any other

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I still want to know the question though, if you know about where that quote maybe came from and it's a movie that we watched recently, then I would know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But there have been several other instances where chatGPT is just kind of lying to us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And sometimes it's sneaky, sometimes it's in the wording, sometimes it's direct.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And one time was trying to troubleshoot if one device is compatible with another device and it says yes it is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But then we found out the real truth because I asked it according to

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[SPEAKER_01]: this device's manual is it compatible with this device?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then it said no.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So when I changed the wording and got a little more direct, it was a better answer, but it's misleading in the beginning.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then there was another instance where I was recently talking to someone who, from their experience, was doing some research and using AI to help research articles,

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[SPEAKER_01]: to ride a paper.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And in the articles that came up with it showed all the sighted sources, which means you should be able to trust it, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: But there's actually a trick that's going on with the internet knowing that AI just scraped everything it finds on the internet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so she found out that by looking up all of these sites none of them were legitimate.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So even though sighted sources and had that like little keychain thing, just to say where it came from, didn't mean that it was still a reliable

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[SPEAKER_01]: So time and time and time again, I get very careful when someone brings up chat to BT and that they were looking it up on chat to BT rather than actually looking up on YouTube.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think YouTube's actually a lot more reliable now because even though it uses Gemini, it still gives you like real people answers on this is one of those faceless AI videos.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Those ones are like unreliable, but if you're like, how do I change the oil in a 2016 town and country Chrysler and then you can find like a real mechanic that's actually showing you how to do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you go to Google for that, it may or may not bring up the video and it might just AI overview it, which would say like here's how to do it and then it'll cite the sources, but you don't know if those sources are reliable still.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you never know the mechanics reliable, but just by seeing it in video form and seeing the mechanic on YouTube and then you see it work and you see it done, it looks like something you can do and it's logical, it's trustworthy that you got all the answers and then you go and try it and it works, that's when search can be reliable again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So really all in all, this is just a reminder for everyone to not always trust what you see with AI, like we've adopted it, it's become a thing, but it can cite sources and those sources could be fake websites that could be people trying to troll AI and they could be trying to reverse train it based on what they're publishing out there and then there could be AI that's writing AI stuff and then AI is coming up with the sources from the AI written stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: man, it could get really messy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's why it's actually very important to show yourself as a brand.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you want to build trust, show yourself on video and don't make yourself one of those AI avatars or AI bots.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That maybe could be good for some sort of tutorial thing, but if you're brand building and building trust, then you really need to show yourself and consistently show up and answer questions.

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[SPEAKER_01]: post all those clips on social media, and if you want to do that at the easy way, then that's when video podcasting comes into it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This new AI world is pretty cool, but it's also very messy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So keep doing the raps, keep putting out content, and keep on keeping on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll see you in the next one.