The "Clear Vision" Test: Why Most Entrepreneurs Stay Stuck
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Stop being a "snowflake entrepreneur" who gets tossed by every wind and minor setback. If you can’t walk away from your business for a week without the wheels falling off, you don't actually own a business; you own a high-stress job that you can't quit. In this episode, we break down the critical paradigm shift required to move from the trap of self-employment to a life of true influence and freedom.
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[SPEAKER_01]: can you give an example of like what's a regular vision that most people have and then what's like the clear vision version.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So in the series where self-employment is very, very obvious, it's realtors, mortgage lenders, financial advisors, you have to pretty much be the operations the money maker.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I am literally firing myself from holding cameras and it's like there's
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[SPEAKER_02]: Welcome to The Entrepreneur Experience.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My name is Coach Joe, I'm one of the co-hosts here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We also have the amazing co-hosts that's better than that co-hosts.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just kidding.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Jared Taylor with JT visuals.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Without the hype, because we don't have a spell.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, there's more than me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I would have said I didn't know how to spell because that's probably true, but who spell things are right these days?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that little jab that Jared gave me in the beginning, it reminds me of a conversation I was having with my wife the other day because you know when you get in front of like really good friends, you just start joking.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And to the naked eye, like our wives sometimes, they think that we're really being rude with each other.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Ah, and I told them I was like, babe, like you got to understand.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When guys really trust them like each other, we're always joking around and it comes across rude.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If we were polite with each other, that's just a sure sign that we are not comfortable and we have no idea how to read you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's a test of friendship because if you crack and you become a snowflake then we're no longer friends.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know it's snowflaking snowflakes melt.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They also make good snow cones.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's speak in snow flakes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're talking about entrepreneurship here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you're not a snowflake entrepreneur, then you're in the rice spot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And when we say Snowflake, that just means one that, you know, it's a tough time by the wind.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We have to watch out with that because people can think, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I don't think so.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Look, you might be an entrepreneur.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're probably an entrepreneur thinking about being an entrepreneur if you're watching or listening to this podcast.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This podcast is specifically designed for all entrepreneurs who are looking for answers, who are looking for growth, who are looking for hope.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And what we try to do is we try to bring a topic to the table and have a discussion about just the everyday experiences that entrepreneurs have, good, bad, and different.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we try to give hope and answers to some of them through story form, every once in while bringing in a guest.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So if you're also an entrepreneur living in Kansas City and you're interested in the guest experience, it is a small investment, but it comes with a bunch of clip videos.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So anyways, Jared, that was a long-winded run that I had there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you have anything else that you want to add to that?
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[SPEAKER_01]: just uh uh join our school community the school community i'm telling you that's the spot where true growth really happens like if you're listening to this and your in community contributing in the school community yeah taking some of those courses there's AI courses there's business building courses and
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[SPEAKER_00]: things like that that can equip entrepreneurs you will grow you get what you put into it but if you join that you will grow yeah well here's the question as an entrepreneur who's listening and are watching what intentional communities are you a part of that actually lift you up when it comes to your entrepreneur spirit
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[SPEAKER_00]: Meaning, who is going to encourage you when you're going through a hard month in sales?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you're not careful about your community, you might have people telling you, hey, are you sure you're supposed to really be doing this thing?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Why don't you get a job?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if you're true, entrepreneur, business owner, minded person, that makes you want to throw up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like you gave everything up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You took all the risks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: to do this thing called business.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And when times get tough, it's time to dig in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you need the right voice.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In order to have the right voice, you have to have the right community.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's kind of why we always go along because I'm like, Jared, no, you can't do that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you're like, Joe, seriously, stop it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm like?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you can also celebrate what's going on in there too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like you like to fish for celebrations, which is really awesome, because we need to regulate that more in our brain to celebrate winds and things that have happened reflect on it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I struggle with reflecting in the past.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then so I'm always looking to the future.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so it's a good exercise for me to bounce out because reflections, biblical,
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, yeah, where you came from, what got you here?
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[SPEAKER_01]: and things like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's a good spot for that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's what the Sabbath was for, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we're flexing it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not just to rest, but to reflect, I think.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm also not Jewish, but being a Christian, you know, I did my best to kind of study those things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I realize the Sabbath is very important.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And as a business owner, rest in general, like being able to give yourself a day or two to rest from your toilet makes a difference.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So speaking of rest, too, like I did that cruise thing that we talked about last time or whatever,
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'll tell you dude the budget was like, it was way over than what I was saying.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it was a $3,000 cruise and I have a lot to say about my career to build at it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't like but anyways, that's not for this But it's because of the business side and now I don't want to hear it But it's because the business model.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't like the business model.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're like spirit airlines.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh To where like get you in team and then upsell every yep
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[SPEAKER_01]: and like I will die on this hill that fuel and docking fees should be included in crews.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you showed up and you had an automatically automatic fuel and docking fee?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just didn't like the business model.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think if you charge a little more up front and didn't have fees to the everyday individual, yeah, that's, or remember, most people want convenience.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They'll pay extra for convenience.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So for example, I use a fly spirit because I thought, hey, I'm traveling a lot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just me, I have no kids.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't need a check in the luggage.
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[SPEAKER_00]: As a matter of fact, I don't even need to luggage as big as a standard carry on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I can just do it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: After about three or four of that, I might do this, you know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going I'm upgrading to to Southwest.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have good to Southwest.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love what they did, but then All of a sudden I got this opportunity to get a delta card.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I have credit cards for my business all the time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got that and it said oh because you have this card You get access to our lounge Unlimited oh
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[SPEAKER_00]: How much do I spend on food and airports?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Also, sometimes so crowded, I'm not even sitting down.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just walking just to kind of stay busy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I get to airports early.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you have this thing called lounges that I found out that the majority of Delta flights have TVs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hmm, and guess where I'm never going back to again, Southwest or Spirit or for a deer, I'm sticking with Delta until it's in the matter, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it just created convenience.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I go to the airport, I show them my card, I get into lounge and I have unlimited food and
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[SPEAKER_00]: amenities.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's like an expectation alignment.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So like to be surprised that there's these extra things that you're supposed to pay for, or else you don't call the cruise.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's just totally different.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you lose customer satisfaction by that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but I was talking about that also because in our school community, I was just curious, like, what does it like for entrepreneurs?
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[SPEAKER_01]: to vacation or go on an anniversaire to leave because there's a part of me that like this is in me now like I want to express it's part of me but also like while I'm there I don't want to like shut off a part of what's me which is entrepreneurship or like talking about the business or anything like that it's like it's like a child that you love you know yeah and then you're not allowed to talk about that child it's kind of weird
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I got there and I was like, for one, it's not just about me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Nice glasses.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just put on glasses.
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[SPEAKER_01]: For one, it's not just about me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's about my relationship with my wife on this cruise.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's important.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If she's not into it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I, I shouldn't be so selfish to talk about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She's free to invite me to, and then I can feel good about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's just selfishness.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But then the other thing was just, um, it took me a few days.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I think it was more of like unplugging.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then knowing that the team can handle whatever it is, or if there's something so bad that they can't handle it, it can wait.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was more of that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and for one kudos thank you you've helped coach me to that point and I didn't have like any stress or anything while on vacation yeah because of that but we were unplugged too and so forced me to not do that and I'm just like is this normal for everyone?
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[SPEAKER_01]: When you're an entrepreneur you have a business and you just it's hard to just stop and like everyone says touch grass But I say touch sand You know like go step into the ocean a little bit like hear that ocean unplug like I do that's one of the most therapeutic things ever Yeah, early in the morning forget to put on sunscreen and go oops.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I got sunburned did you?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah I've been browned my whole life
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think my body forgets to get sunburn.
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[SPEAKER_00]: One thing that has been coming up over and over and over again, not just in my coaching sessions, but in just people talking to me that are, you know, not so qualified leads, but they're asking questions.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The topic comes up of the trap of the self-employed business owner.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I say it like that because it is like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Your self-employed, but you think you own a business.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And people loosely thought the word entrepreneur, and even that has a different meaning from business.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I thought to be cool to just really identify those things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And what gets you from self-employment to business owner from business owner to entrepreneurship is typically one thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Strategy aside, operation aside, one major thing that you tap into as an individual gets you from one of those categories
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What is it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's vision.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the ability to act upon it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's let's break down self-compiling vision basically.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there we go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Compiling vision.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I have a formula for success that has the whole, you know, dreams goals, learn, plan act, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like it breaks it down to that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, one thing that really
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[SPEAKER_00]: pushes people to go from one quadrant to the other, it's a compelling vision, and the dissatisfaction of where you are right there that makes you want to get to that next level, because it's one thing to say, oh, I make a lot of money as a self-employed individual, why would I want to go run a business and take more risk and hire people in this in this in that, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There needs to be a compelling vision, like I'm comfortable with where I am.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's typically why people stay where they're at, because when they're satisfied,
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[SPEAKER_00]: then there's no.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I would even argue that some of them are not even satisfied.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They just they give up on trying.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's like the vision parts missing after that, I think.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I mean, we're not even really taught as individuals.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What it truly means to have clear vision.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and get clarity on that, and really hone into that, and create goals, and then learn what it takes, and playing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You have given example of like, what's a regular vision that most people have, and then what's like the clear vision version.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes the generic vision is, I want to make more money.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Cool.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to start a business like and how, how much do you need based on for the why.
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[SPEAKER_00]: A clear vision once, you know, I break it down with my clients.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Once our team, you know, our team of coaches break it down with their clients is, okay, great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, why do you need your business to be successful free?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's break down why you actually need to be successful.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then a lot of times it's like, well, I want to be successful because I want people to be happy with where they work.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, no, no, no, no, no.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Business aside,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Why does your business have to be successful?
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[SPEAKER_00]: What is it supposed to do to serve you personally?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I give them permission to be selfish.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And a good way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so let's just talk about you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Are you living in the house of Jackson 11?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Is that your dream house?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Is that the dream house that you wanted to raise your kids?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like when you were a kid and you had nothing that stopped you from really dreaming.
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[SPEAKER_00]: How do the house look when you had your dreams of having a family and being like, yes, is your wife happy?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Your husband happy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you have a special machine?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you have an espresso machine?
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[SPEAKER_01]: With the tiny cups and the plate, no, tiny spoon, well, not the tiny cups, but the espresso size mugs, so you can do the latte art.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you're a latte guy, you just had espresso.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I just nailed it down just to espresso.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But you can add the small cups just for the espresso kick and a big cup.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Ooh, four.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're latte.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you're latte lactose intolerant, dude, Joe, while you're on this, though, I realized a new vision on the personal side.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, let's hear it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's hear it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So no joke.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I truly after going on our cruise.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and spending so much quality time with my wife, rediscovering who we are has each other really good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just been a minute without kids, you know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I wanna be a snowbird.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Dude, and then me too, do you?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I want to own a house that's like, somewhat close to a beach or something, like, drive a bowl or something like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But they wouldn't San Diego.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like our family has houses in San Diego.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, because I love where we live and I see us being here for a long time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Raising our family here, when the kids are out of school, the cases are an amazing place to raise a family.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we're so plugged in with our community.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what makes the community great is how you're actually plugged in.
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[SPEAKER_01]: After the kids graduate,
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[SPEAKER_01]: make enough money to be able to own both houses and travel frequently.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And studios.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, yeah, I would just start another business, too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just have a Zarya around this one or another location, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do she could?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm pretty sure she could.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I do better than me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Once I get the systems up, I mean, she wasn't going to say it as Zarya, but there's people that build systems and there's people that run systems.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And definitely a good matter of systems.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I was going to say I'm a, oh, I'm sorry, Bill.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Builder of systems from your perspective because you build nirons, but honestly your gift is also to to run things like in a sense like you run to stuff at your church like you get really excited about all those I think I'm in a paradigm shift of my own life though where it's like half-two yeah and because you have to shift from technician to business owner
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[SPEAKER_01]: And same with church too, even like the team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, I am literally firing myself from holding cameras.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I said isn't it?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's hard.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But same time I said.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you hear that team?
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[SPEAKER_00]: He could no longer hold a camera.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Grace, I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Good thing, including pro bono work.
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[SPEAKER_01]: it's like dude if someone wants something captured hold on hold on, if I ask you to come to my office and be like, hey, the shoot's something really cool.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, maybe I'll iPhone.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But if you're not okay with iPhone, you want a real schedule thing, bro.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you want something good on iPhone.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I got a good iPhone app.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's professional.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The shoot's in logarithmic format, which I think that's on your head.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is over original.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so self-employment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so get your vision.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, the vision gets you from one corner to the other, but let's let's get very clear on self-employment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Self-employment guys, and this might be a really hard gut punch for somebody you watch in or listening.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If the business relies on you for the majority of anything, you're self-employed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't care if you have a team.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't care if there are systems in place.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you are the one that has to be present for the majority of the business to function and make money, you own a job, which puts you in self-employment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, it's probably self-employment light or business.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I wouldn't get so granular with those things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But at the end of the day, self-employment literally means you own a job.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, you might get paid more than what you would for working for somebody else.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So for some of you, that's exactly where you want or need to be.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But some industries where self-employment is very, very obvious, it's realtors, mortgage lenders, financial advisors, you know, you have to pretty much be the operations, the money maker, the person, the app, signing the papers, all that kind of stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And even if you have like a transaction coordinator or something like that, you're still the face of the entire business.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's self-employment.
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[SPEAKER_01]: in the business side would be if they decide to go firm.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that gives more into a business model.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know a realtor will Gary Crowley was on her.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Dude.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, that guy on his own makes commission of about a million dollars a year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But he has like 10 people on this team and he sets systems and just tells them what to do and they go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, and that guy is always fishing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What's up, Gary?
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you're watching, I was running a duct cleaning business, it's in the HVAC world.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I remember I was the guy answering the phone schedule of jobs, while I was driving to the next job, I had a note pair out of all the jobs that were next.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was proud because I was making a $150,000 a year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I'd never ever hit the $100,000.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, but then you get burnt out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was working 16 hours a day, isn't it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: all that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was self-employed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I heard somebody, but I had to train, and I still had to be with them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They were just a helper.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They were everything but a person in a van doing their own thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I was still self-employed, but I thought I had a business.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, my wife jumped in to answer the phones and do all that stuff, but...
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[SPEAKER_00]: the business still been a majority of it, rather me, I was still self-employed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You jump into the business owner phase when you actually have systems training and a team that takes the majority of them and Dana away from you as the business owner.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and you focus on your genius, which is in my case it was, I love to network.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just brought people into the business to sell as people sold it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I came into team meetings and I trained and I talked a lot if you don't notice, I like to talk.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you're good at it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: On to your horn.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I mean, thankfully, because everything else, like the detail, the operations, the setting up systems, those are all my weaknesses.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I remember trying to do all those things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I could only do it so well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, if you look at my team, I have more people.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have more of those, I do coaches on my team, and most of them is to just make sure that the little things that we do, especially things are done with excellence.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm more like a visionary time, very ideas person, and so it's nice to have someone that's a compliment to that, meaning like, hey, that wasn't very clear.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What do you mean by this?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then...
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's more clarity and then I count to lead the team by having someone like that and then also like organising literally anything that doesn't make sense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Streamlining the process like I set it up like this and made a lot of sense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought I was thinking like a waffle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Boxed by boxed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess I was spaghetti.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so and then you got to have someone that kind of can convert that so it's a better process.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so that was that was like my side that I've experienced that I really appreciate having someone that's like a compliment to yeah Well a lot of times if you can find the right part in your business and they can compliment what you do That's gold Yeah, some of the best partners are total opposites
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, and some of them can be chameleons, they can really work strong together, but they understand, they have a verbal, you know, agreement, or even physical, you know, like, hey, these are the lines that you stay in because you're really good there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You start to mess up when you're in my lane.
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[SPEAKER_00]: One of my favorite things to do when I work with partners is get them to sign an agreement right away.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You already have an operating agreement, I'm not talking about that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm talking about an agreement on how you're going to run things on a day to day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like, you are the CEO because you have tons of vision, you're able to lead, you're really good at hiring the right people, but when it comes to detail, dude, you love the operations, you love the train, you love to do all that kind of stuff, like, okay, that could be a good partnership.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So business owners, it's systems, teams, you're not involved in the majority of it, you're involved in a small amount of it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: maybe, or none of it, you upgrade to entrepreneurship when you have, there's different definitions, but this is the way I see it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You have a successful business that doesn't need you to be around to be successful, and you're off doing other ventures if you want to, or other investments, or you're utilizing your time to do other things that actually build you wealth now, whether it's starting up other businesses and passing them off to the right people, you have multiple businesses that run without you and you have a passion project,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now you're entrepreneur.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You have multiple things going on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're successful.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're doing things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're coaching.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're teaching people because of that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's actually a very fun area to be in and also very chaotic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's it's an identity crisis to me it was because I was like, oh, man, I'm no longer the owner.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I am the owner of that, but I'm never there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, but I'm like, this is not what I want, though.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to not be there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Make money off of it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Then you open new locations, but then when you open new locations, there's new problems and new people and new management that you got to hire, so then the roles change and the latter gets bigger.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah, well the latter runs a distance.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that happened to me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I started a junk removal business here in Kansas City.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's already one in San Diego.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, oh, it's been a few years since I actually started something from scratch.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I forgot about all this stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's actually, it was kind of like frustrating, but then
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was appreciative of the startup process, and then I realized I no longer want to do startups anymore.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just want to buy a small business system, so I already did all this headache.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What about like acquisition?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You want to acquire a company?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but I would like to acquire companies.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I would also like to, I know I said I don't want to start, but maybe I have some and small that I got from somebody who already has a majority of the CRM and all that stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I got you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's not like doing it so well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, hey, let me take over the business, figure out what needs to be done, and then hire the right people just to run the business.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So like a...
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[SPEAKER_01]: a business with partnership that can like just plug the play.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like the drawments like we have a somewhat partnership agreement like they pretty much manage for partial ownership and then there's like a there's a probation phase.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't see how they do and and stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So get this too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I looked at the structure and and researched it a little more with Margaritaville, the cruise line,
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[SPEAKER_01]: they're the main company and okay so look this up just to verify don't take my word for it but I know check this thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know it was something about like there was some Australian company or or some other company and Margaritaville bought them out and kind of acquired their ship and they're just just one chip an investment of people and I think it started with one but then
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[SPEAKER_01]: they they manage their business in brand building and then they hire a whole separate company to completely operate it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it's like a white label thing, but it's transparent enough.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's like, but in a hard time train their team had operate, they're like, it's probably cheaper the same to get a third party in here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's kind of like that's do that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they'd, yeah, like Marriott.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, and it's like real estate.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You have like property management companies, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then it, it's kind of like the same thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's like when you think like that, that's a little more plug and play.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you can, if you can start with that kind of, oh, yeah, way that could be that could go a long ways.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I might own both companies.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, or that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Going from those little sections of self-employment business owner and entrepreneur.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the last quadrant that Robert Kyozaki has is investor.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you just do whatever your money.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like, you just make so much money.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Or you are just living off the passive or residual income of all your investments.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love about this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have some investments that I'm living off of.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's not much.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I have a few businesses that pay me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think I'm still in the entrepreneur phase tapping into investor pretty soon and not by not in any big way by any means just with what I'm doing activity Why I'm I'm getting into that now I'm talking about starting businesses with people it's cool But one thing that really that you need as an entrepreneur to really move me from one quadrant to the other because it's it's not as easy as you're saying Okay, I'm gonna be a business owner
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[SPEAKER_00]: You have to have strong vision for where are you going to go?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if you don't, then let's say yourself employed, well, that fact commission check that one time fact commission check just kind of keeps you there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you got to have that risk.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's probably like why a lot of people get trapped too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it really any ceiling.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like there's a risk out there that you need to take that can get you past that ceiling.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, one of the risks is understanding and identifying that you can no longer be the person that you believe can only do it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I hear people stuck in this all the time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, if I want to do things right, I have to do it myself.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Even if those are not the words that are articulated, that's definitely a mindset or you feel like, oh, I have such a great relationship with all the
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I've done it a few times already, and here's a reality, they actually appreciate it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hmm, especially if you do the introduction, I feel like that would be fine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: With or without the introduction, if I'm burnt out, and I'm not answering their calls anymore, and I'm tired, and they see a lack of skill because I'm just tired, they'll appreciate that I'm putting something more competent.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In front of their project whether it's a house project to tech project or anything like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I never thought of it like that Not one of my clients left because I no longer serve as their house.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I realized I was like, hey, I'm not that important I'm not as important as I thought I was you're not as important as you are which makes you important when you realize it I just heard of my and I just heard of voice on my head, but your mom thinks you're important Yeah And it's like even from biblical perspective.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like well God thinks you're important
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, hold on, hold on, hold on, you gotta think about this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Literally inscriptured, said a lot of times, God has no favorites.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if there's something, there's something, there's something to kind of balance there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But what it is that can make you special is that you were the one that was called and you were the one that obeyed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because I think that
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[SPEAKER_01]: like, God's gonna do it no matter what, because he can.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If he wants something to happen, he can find the people that's gonna do it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's like the same thing for me, like, it should be an honor for me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: to be called, to do this business because God wants me to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Versus, what makes me different than everyone else and I can feel so insecure about it and then it's like, well, no, like, God's gonna make it happen and he's asking me if I wanna be the one that he uses.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but even if like, and this is not to describe what you just said because everything you said is absolutely true, but like, well, you even do it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If God promised that you won't not even see the outcome, until, hmm.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Never that's always the crazy question.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I was it was it has a kayak or one of the profits where it's like hey You do all these things, but you won't see the result until twelve hundred years from now and having more you're looking down right in the in essence I say I say I say I do is it has a kayak I say I say I is a Iya
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're open Moses.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, he obeyed too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He did a lot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and then struck that right on what the rods like when I was a kid I was like, hey, that's kind of harsh He's never done what And you went through all of that like I really want to see this like yeah VR style and heaven of like this scene of
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[SPEAKER_01]: Aaron building the calf and everything and he getting all pissed off.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I'm impatient and like, no, we need to worship God.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But you don't sleep with the amount of those things and you broke the first of a tinker man, that's not what did it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was when God clearly told him to speak to the rock, I think.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's a tap it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and he smacked the living crap, but I was like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: to split a rock in half, get to hit that thing really, really hard.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, it was probably a pressure from the water.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I, he must have been really angry to like really provoke God to be angry at him and be like, dude, cause you did that now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks for everything, but now you're not going to see it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, that's that's tough.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's tough to swallow But you know we didn't stop him in Joshua from like in all the other biblical strong people and as an entrepreneur It's really being clear with the purpose that God has given you like living out your two purpose and seeking it out
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And once you understand it, I guarantee you you'll either do nothing about it because you're too scared or you'll do everything it takes to fulfill that true potential.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to be the second part because being created to how God created me through basically in his image, I'm a creator just like he is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so if I'm not creating, if I'm not doing things to add value, then in my my precious opinion, I'm not living out my potential.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, now it just looks different than your potential when we get to articulating it, but the reality is you have to seek out and live the true potential God has put you in.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Or else, you'll settle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you know your God-given purpose, my God-given purpose, like why
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[SPEAKER_01]: What is God want for Joe?
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've had a lot of time to think about that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And as of right now, my God given purpose is to help Christian entrepreneurs succeed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that they can actually be present in a God the way for their family, starting with their spouse and their community.
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[SPEAKER_00]: To glorify God and everything that they do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now does that mean I don't work with Christians?
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[SPEAKER_00]: No.
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[SPEAKER_00]: but I want to help those.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And those who come in that are not Christian, I will also help you build a business.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it'll be in alignment with my fundamentals.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I won't push God on you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't even mean?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hopefully you see my example and you can make your own decision at that point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But my true God-given purpose is to help the body of Christ.
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[SPEAKER_00]: take off some of the blinders of money, if you want to approach it, there's the so much talk and disagreement on whether Christians should be poor or Christians should be prosperous.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, if you go to Western and American eyes, everything is so good, we think that the only evidence that you're in God's favor is that you're super abundantly wealthy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's not true.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's also equally not as true that because you're a servant of God, you have to be in look and act poor.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like that's also not true, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, that's a huge misconception.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is a misconception.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I really want to help the body Christ understand the truth of what God really wants.
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[SPEAKER_00]: For them and what trust to prosperity means, which is not physical things and that's a bad product.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, the Bible says, seek first God's kingdom and then his righteousness, then all these things will be added to you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we seek out all, and it's the same in business.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're seeking out those big, glorious moments of high revenue, high sales.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We brag about that and our profit and cash flow is not existing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I believe there's something like a talent or a passion that God gives every single person.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Even if you don't believe in him, like there's some sort of passion that's in you to do something.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, which is crazy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I believe that like that passion when it's aligned with advancing the kingdom of God.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Then that's true, like beat living in God's will.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's where like if you're called to be an entrepreneur and build a business and then you're passionate about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: How is it helping to work alongside God's kingdom?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Or be part of God's, you know, like, live really be part of it, figuring that out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then once they all align, then you're really walking in purpose.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And for me, like, why am I here personally put on this earth?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I believe it has to do with showing a new perspective, because I just think so different than people.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's what makes me unique.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It does.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It does.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's definitely opposite in the way I think.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think when we mash together, and I was like, oh dude, yeah, yeah, some cool stuff here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And there's a lot of more people out there that's like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they're struggling and they can't even, they don't even know their passion.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I believe that it's in me,
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[SPEAKER_01]: to be able to help people find that passion and then connect that with the church and connect it with the business.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's more to it and I want to help them see the next step and that's what I feel like I'm called to because I can see it as a I learned storytelling through the passion of video.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So videos become an avenue in a vehicle that helps me get to where God made me unique, and that's learning story.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so there's a lot of times I can see where someone needs to go in their story.
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[SPEAKER_01]: To them, it's their real life and when they're sharing about it, I'm hearing it, and I'm like, like, you got to do this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I have one marked for you still.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Really?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I haven't marked in my head.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You got to go swimming, man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Joe hates the water and see I remember.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'll do that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's like I think he's I think he's trying to hey can we get the life guards over there please?
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what's how this happens.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Can they get him alive?
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[SPEAKER_00]: That CPR for about 30 minutes now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The hard thing is seen it in myself.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so that's where I need help from other people.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let me clarify.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not water that I'm afraid of.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Also I'm going to pull.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's the ocean.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, because it was the waves that kept crashing over me that kind of got me to drown a little bit What about just beach though?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I'll do that But like I honestly want to go out and surf one day and I'll be afraid of the waves like oh, okay It's it's that it's that part.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, dude.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We did pair of sailing
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'll do that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if I had, if I have a life as I fall in the water, I'm fine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I want to face the fear of getting a surfboard, just a wet suit, no, no floatation device.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And just kind of be out there and like, and catch this wave.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if I fall under, I know what to do to come back up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I have a fear, and I know the story for me, and which is why I have this huge burning desire to do it sometime, so it's kind of like a far-out thing, and maybe it involves Michael Mitchell?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Michael, are you listening?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what, we should put this on school and be like, hey Michael, we can add you out somewhere along this video, you got to watch the whole thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you get a worse whole thing than you know it?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but you know, he's been like doing
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've always had this desire to swim with sharks, because I have a fear, but it's like one of those fears that I know that once I do it, it's just going to be.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so awesome.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I've heard that it's actually easier and not as scary if you swim at sharks It's just when they ambush you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's where the fear comes from.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Look at how you don't be ambushed by any animal When you go down there and they're just flowing around and you're like, yeah, they say that when you come up You just hold their nose and push them away.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I was watching the documentary.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I've been seeing all this knock their nose and I like
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[SPEAKER_01]: Facebook knows my algorithms and it's much of a shark videos shark videos, but I don't want to be like Surprised I did something went with killer wells.
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[SPEAKER_01]: How about that?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll do that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Orcas?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, orcas
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's that's Rose is one of Rose's dreams too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we don't want to cruise again, but we might do like a laskan cruise because you see orcas and whales, but if we can do it, honestly, I think it was the cruise line that you were on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Honestly, yeah, probably because I have so many people.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so here's one dream.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The Ritz Carlton came out with a cruise.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like the Carlton dance?
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, the Ritz Carlton, the high level 5 star hotel brand.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, dude.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The Ritz.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They came out with the cruise.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to not appreciate that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And follow these influencers that all they do is go on these luxury trips.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you could actually experience it through their lens.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they went on one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like 20 grand a person.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Dude, everything's included though.
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[SPEAKER_01]: today.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, there's a spot someone mentioned in Dominican, which we went there for our honeymoon, and you can clear kayak, like those clear kayaks, and workers showed up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, and they don't, they don't attack you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's roses.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, they're good, they're good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, now we're all right, we're off.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Look, if you're watching, if you listen in, here's my encouragement to you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Access where you're at, just like literally assess where you're at.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And actually I'm gonna throw in something, I'm gonna give you the PDF.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have a business self-assessment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, that will throw in the link and it just kind of gives us six steps of what we teach on how to build a successful business and you can grade every single area of those minor topics that make the whole thing what it is and you can kind of make the decision to say okay this these are the things I have to do to either get out of self employment and build a business or to actually build the business that I'm trying to work on right now or get into entrepreneurship it just really
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[SPEAKER_00]: and as brutal as you need to be with you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I want just people on passion to let people know that if you're stuck in self-employment, that's not where you actually want to be.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a way out of it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You just have to start with, hey,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Why or what do I need to do to get myself out of this thing?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like what what's so strong and compelling?
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[SPEAKER_00]: That has everything to do with your purpose in life To get you to say okay, I'll do the next steps to actually get out from self-employment to building a business and from building a business to launch a partnership and Entrepreneurship to you just basically living a life through your investments.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's that dude.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's awesome
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, if you're on the school community, you'll see it attached in there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So the link is through the school community, and then find this video.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you've seen the thumbnail entitled, you'll know where it is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then that's where the attachment will be.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So awesome.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Amazing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So with all that being said, I'm glad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm really happy you took this journey with us, even though we're the only ones talking.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm not hoping you're the only one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just kidding.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll take it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Probably right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I probably didn't have a door to talk in this hell around.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's pretty even.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But whatever phase of entrepreneurship you are in, look, there's hope you might be in a in a season where things are just so prosperous.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Congratulations.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, ride that wave as much as you can.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Build this system through it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you're in a season of just.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're you're you're suffering.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's part of entrepreneurship and a lot of the resilience comes through that pain You know, I always say you just have to be too hard at the give up especially if you know you're doing the right things So if you're not doing the right things adjust it and then just keep going and do time It'll it'll happen, but at the end of the day just remember that entrepreneurship is one of those one of those things where if you do this right you will change the world
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[SPEAKER_00]: and whatever you go through will be worth the eventual outcome if you are willing to put it in what it takes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Man, pretty good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Man, okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: One out of all for motivation, but this one did, it's motivational.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I loved it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So what are you going to do about it?
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's where the real change happens.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right guys, stay strong and keep on keeping on.




